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Have a 7-8 year old set of Solomon skis. Returning from a trip last year one of the marker Griffonx bindings was destroyed by the airline. Pro tip, don't lock them together in transit, that likely caused it. Anyway, I was just going to replace both by buying a new set and installing them myself. Was hoping to find bindings where the mounting holes would line up with the existing holes. Are the hole patterns different from manufacture to manufacture? Should newer Griffon bindings match up? Would you even mount new bindings or just replace the entire setup given the age. Skis in otherwise decent shape. Skis a 7 on a scale of 10 of type of ski I like to ski. Thanks for any thoughts on the subject. | ||
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Are the Solomons worth keeping? A lot has changed in ski design in 7 years... I have Griffons on one of my old sets but don't know if the drill holes compare to now. A shop should be able to tell you about the holes no problem. What setup do you have? | |||
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I'd have to go look but think they are Q98 Solomon's with the Griffon bindings. Side cut 134/97/120 Tip rocker 320. (Have a photo of the data but not the full ski) They would be worth keeping if I can get a reasonably priced set of bindings. Just don't know if I want to spend $300 for bindings for 8 year old skis. | |||
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If you want to use those skis, I’d look for a used set of bindings somewhere like eBay. I don’t think there is a universal standard for the mounting holes. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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If you are not able to source a replacement set of bindings I would recommend springing for a new pair of skis and bindings if it's in your budget. My first place to look for recreational ski equipment and sometimes alpine race skis is. . . Colorado Discount Skis This is probably one of the best sources that I am aware of for 'new old stock' equipment. I have purchased multiple pairs of skis from here as well as friends and my fellow ski patrollers. Following purchase the shipment is prompt and well packaged. The owner, Tom, is a great guy and can make recommendations for you based on your needs. He may also know of inventory coming in that may not be listed yet. If you speak with Tom tell him that Rob from Pennsylvania says "Hi". LOL!! My son has these skis (in 174cm) and he said that they are a very capable All-Mountain ski - Armada 2022 Declivity 82 Ti w/F12 Bindings NEW !! 166cm $499.99 Another good source is - SkiEssentials Click on the "OUTLET" link at the top of the page. Also take a look at - Skis.com Click on the "Sale" page. Annd, one more. . . Corbetts Ski Shop Click on 'Sale' then 'Skis'. I have purchased equipment from all of the above over the years and had good experiences with all. Good luck! __________ "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy." | |||
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Thanks for the info Rob. | |||
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Have them mounted at a shop. If the binding was pulled all the way out there is a chance a hela- coil will need to be installed. They will also need to be set up for your boots and the release mechanism set to the proper din and tested ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Live today as if it may be your last and learn today as if you will live forever | |||
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Pro Tip - If your ski destination requires airline travel to get there, don't bring your skis...Just bring your boots and get 'High Performance Rentals' when you get there! Traveling with skis is just not worth the hassle, not to mention that if you do a HP rental, you get to test drive the 'new hotness'!  How many days a year do you ski and where...while located in 'Indiana or Florida depending on season'? Are these your skis --> https://www.evo.com/outlet/skis/salomon-q-98-2015 If so, those are a solid 'All Mountain' Ski w/ a wood core. Depending on how many days/year you ski, they will likely last a very long time. For reference, I ski Blizzard GForce Supersonic IQs that I purchased in 2014 (2012/2013 model leftovers) and ski at least 12-14 days a year on them in New England. They're a full camber HP carving ski and they've still got plenty of life in them! That said, I don't ski moguls anymore, and MUCH prefer to carve on steep trails...The steeper, the better! YMMV  Your Q-98s are also a 'wide waist' modern design, not very dissimilar to the newer skis currently available, so it would be easy to get a similar performing ski as a HP Rental if your ski destination requires airline travel. You'd surely adapt to them VERY quickly (like a few runs quickly, if that) especially considering you'd be using your own boots. The new skis would probably be easier to ski than your old ones, though there can be a downside to that IMO. I like to 'attack the hill', so I'm having the most fun when I'm working at it...If there's not enough 'challenge' involved (like kinda mundane/boring), it won't be as enjoyable for me. Ultimately, if they're not quite suited to you you could probably swap them out for a different ski anyway! Regardless, it's probably worth it to replace the binding(s) on those skis. Your best bet would be to contact Marker first, and get the drilling template for the new Griffons and see if it matches up. I'd try to contact contact a Marker Rep (direct employee for Marker) to get pointed in the right direction. You might even find the drilling template for 'your' Griffons as well. As previously posted, eBay is probably a good source for used replacements if the new Griffons don't have the same mounting pattern. It may take a bit of looking, but there is skied little un-abused equipment out there. If you do mount your own bindings, make sure you properly torque the mounting screws! I'm not a fan of drilling skis for a different mounting pattern/new set of bindings. Usually the mounting pattern dimensions between different bindings is pretty tight, close enough that if the holes don't encroach on one another, it's possible to compromise the structure of the ski to mount different bindings anyway. A GOOD ski shop can tell you if mounting different bindings on your skis is advisable/doable. Honestly, if the mounting pattern isn't identical and your skis are in good shape aesthetically, I'd be more inclined to use those skis for wall art!
What do you mean by '7 on a scale of 10'? Good for 70% of conditions you ski in? 70% suited to your style/skill level, so skis above or below your ability? I don't 100% follow what you're saying there, but it sounds like a 30% miss somehow. Please elaborate... ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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A couple of thoughts for you. I don't know if replacing bindings with those of a different manufacturer on the same set of skis will work; you need to get a professional opinion on that. If you can replace the bindings then six to eight-year old skis may still work for you depending on your skiing style and ability. My current skis are about five years old and will last me for many years more. Renting skis to research a new purchase is the way to go; however, based on my own experience, I'd caution you against a policy of not buying and just renting where ever you go. I once took a tumble in Austria and the bindings on my rental skis did not release thereby tearing my knee. Having your own bindings gives great piece of mind that they will work properly. | |||
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Yes, those are the skis but a different year. Mine are blue. When I say 7 of 10 I mean that the best skis for my style of skiing I would rate a 10. I rate these a 7 or 8. Makes sense if they are an all mountain ski. I'll be keeping them regardless so that I can eventually get them up and running when I move back out west and get to ski lots of days. I'm more trying to decide how I want to address my ski needs for this season which will likely be 6-7 days of skiing. Don't have a ton of $ so I might try to score some used demos that have bindings on them. I was seeing those a couple of places for $400-$600 during last years trip. I think the new bindings were approaching $250. A week of rental is going to be close to $400 for demos. | |||
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Yes, I have often said those expensive bindings are not the place to try to save money. I put a high value on my healthy knees. I did a few years of renting top end demos before I bought the set in question. The good demos tend to have good bindings but that route gets pricey fast and I'm a poor retired guy now. | |||
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OK, so the blue/white Q-98s are from 2014, but if you're on them for 7 days a season, you won't be wearing them out anytime soon. Honestly, I'd bring them to a GOOD ski shop and find out if the new Griffins will mount up. You don't necessarily need to commit to purchasing them in order to get that question answered. At that point you can decide to seek a used replacement, or pony up for new Markers. Regardless, if your plans are to move out west, I'd wait until after the move, and get skis best suited for the conditions you'll be skiing. To the point that Tejas421 made, I wouldn't be so concerned about the bindings not releasing, or that you'd be somehow compromising your knees if you go the used route. The key is that the binding are set to the proper DIN for your weight/skill level, and to have a function check done at a qualified shop once they're mounted. ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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I stopped skiing after 55 years. Traffic and cold became unpleasant. I would not remount new bindings on old skis. The hole patterns are almost always different, and there will be water seep into old holes. Epoxy and ski have different contraction profiles. I valued my knees too much to save a few bucks. In the end, it was a shoulder injury that stopped me. _________________ This space left intentionally blank. | |||
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Thanks for the info on the year as I was wondering about it. I think I'll just take them along as normal on the next trip and get them in to a good shop I know of. Both places I currently live are not know for their abundance of good ski shops. (IN and FL). Probably means I'll have to rent for at least one day but that's no big deal. May still explore the option of picking up a set of "retired" demos that they tend to sell pretty reasonably at some of the shops in SLC. | |||
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Pro Tip - If your ski destination requires airline travel to get there, don't bring your skis...Just bring your boots and get 'High Performance Rentals' when you get there! Traveling with skis is just not worth the hassle, not to mention that if you do a HP rental, you get to test drive the 'new hotness'! This ^^^^^^^ No quarter .308/.223 | |||
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