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September 21, 2025, 08:32 PM
kkina
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This flew over the Bay Area today. Probably a tribute to Charlie. Is this a missing man formation?

Formation by kpkina, on Flickr



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September 21, 2025, 10:53 PM
sigmonkey
Possible.

Missing man is a formation is typically a "finger four" that looks like a "knife hand".
(but can be more aircraft in a formation)


FW ----->
FL ------>
EL ----->
EW ---->

In order:
FW = Flight Wingman
FL = Flight Lead
EL = Element Lead
EW = Element Wingman

On the flyover, the EL (Element Lead) will slowly climb up and away from the formation.
This aircraft is the "Missing Man", the formation will continue leaving the "Missing Man" slot open.




The formation may be "Strong Right" or Strong Left.

Like below

Strong Left
------>
------->
-------->
------->

Strong Right
------->
-------->
------->
----->




"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא עוד
September 21, 2025, 11:46 PM
kkina
Thanks, SM. I've seen the 4 plane MM formation, but was wondering if there was a variation for 5 aircraft.



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September 22, 2025, 09:17 PM
sigmonkey
I have seen the Frecce Tricolori perform the Missing Man with a flight of 9 aircraft.
(Italian Air Force Demonstration Team)




"the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא עוד
September 23, 2025, 05:25 PM
Orguss
The Blue Angels have a Missing Man with their six-plane formation.

https://youtu.be/VH9hYXVf2Lk?si=jEknYiLXxWHl-8Ov



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September 23, 2025, 05:38 PM
kkina
I wonder if this one started out with 6?



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September 23, 2025, 08:18 PM
RogueJSK
No. Regardless of the number of planes involved, the "missing" plane in a "missing man" formation is towards the middle of the formation, just behind the lead. See Orguss' video or Sigmonkey's gif.

Your photo shows a standard 5 plane V formation, with no plane missing.
September 23, 2025, 08:31 PM
kkina
What about this?





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September 23, 2025, 08:42 PM
mojojojo
No, not a missing man formation.



Icarus flew too close to the sun, but at least he flew.
September 23, 2025, 09:42 PM
Orguss
quote:
Originally posted by kkina:
What about this?

That is a Missing Man flight due to the single plane departing vertically the formation.



"I'm yet another resource-consuming kid in an overpopulated planet raised to an alarming extent by Hollywood and Madison Avenue, poised with my cynical and alienated peers to take over the world when you're old and weak!" - Calvin, "Calvin & Hobbes"
September 23, 2025, 09:47 PM
kkina
Exactly. I was wondering if that's what happened. Maybe it didn't and it's a standard formation. Unfortunately I didn't see the planes myself (not my pic).



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September 24, 2025, 01:07 AM
Twist18
Are you in the east bay? I think those guys are the “memorial squadron” (I think that’s the name)and they fly out of Livermore.
September 24, 2025, 01:14 AM
kkina
No, Peninsula. Native San Mateo-an.



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September 24, 2025, 01:34 AM
Twist18
Download the flightradar24 app, and next time you see them, you’ll be able to find out where they’re from…assuming they filed a flight plan.
September 24, 2025, 01:52 AM
kkina
I actually already have it, but I wasn't wondering where they were from, just what kind of formation they were flying.



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