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Oh stewardess, I speak jive. |
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One day, hopefully sooner than later, our government will quit screwing around and living a lie that negativity affects millions of Americans - from fans to would-be legit businesses. It's these same companies, notably the Tobacco and Alcohol lobbies and their industries, who lobby hardest against cannabis legalization (at least until they secure their place...). Feel that? (the winds of change) | ||
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stupid beyond all belief |
I'm just tired of the billions wasted on the drug war we've been losing for years. As Peter Tosh said - Legalize it. Start the revenue train. I believe the administration announced they would change stances which makes sense with sessions gone so it may be up to the states soon. Just for argument's sake, I don't even like it, nor smoke it(but have long ago). No surprise on marlboro kicking in here. What man is a man that does not make the world better. -Balian of Ibelin Only boring people get bored. - Ruth Burke | |||
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This isn't going to end well. | |||
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Can you imagine all the Trained K-9 dogs going nuts on the streets if MJ becomes legal. Love watching PD Live, most of the stops all contain a K-9 bust for nothing. Great TV | |||
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quarter MOA visionary |
Let's face it > it will happen sooner or later. As society moves forward value decay is a part of it. The legalize it so we can tax it is a bogus argument. We all will suffer in various forms just as with the legalization of alcohol. Now you must think I am against legalization - I'm not, everyone should be responsible for their own actions and any negative consequences from that. But there will be other areas affected and not for the good that is just a fact we have to live with. Nevertheless it is inevitable. | |||
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about time we should get back to erring on the side of personal freedom and responsibility plus i believe in the end the medicinal benefit of marijuana will prove to be quite worth the effort -------------------------------- Proverbs 27:17 - As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. | |||
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Ammoholic |
My grandfather is into investing pretty big. I asked him about a month ago if I should invest in Altria giving this likely development. He said no, he didn't offer any further explanation when I asked, just said don't do it. Asked about RJ Reynolds and he said no again, and just forget about it. Not sure what he knows, but he was pretty adamant about it. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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I have not yet begun to procrastinate |
Why is taxing it a bogus argument? Hasn't this been done several times over? In absolute, total agreement with you on - everyone should be responsible for their own actions. Whatever the 'cause du jour', if you don't hurt anyone...no harm no foul. Screw up and your ass *will* be on the line as it should be. -------- After the game, the King and the pawn go into the same box. | |||
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Move Up or Move Over |
Big pharma is watching and playing on a small scale. When they decide they are ready the laws will change and then the BIG money will roll in. The cartels should be taking note of the middle east. When the big corporate players turn their eyes south there really will be a "war" on drugs... | |||
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I sure do hope that your grandfather is wrong, as I have owned a stake in Altria for some time now. If this acquisition pays off, the stock price will go up a bunch. | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
What were the laws against "recreational" drugs during this nation's founding? Yet, somehow, we built a nation that spanned from "sea to shining sea."
Maybe he just plain doesn't like pot and, by extension, anybody who invests in it? "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Assault Accountant |
I’m not against legalization however I doubt the increased tax revenue will result in anything other than increased spending. __________________ Member NRA Member NYSRPA | |||
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quarter MOA visionary |
It is bogus because the reasoning assumption that the tax revenue will be greater than the problems it creates. To legalize for that reason alone is faulty. Sin taxes like any other taxes are just taxes......and how do we fee about more taxes? | |||
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Gracie Allen is my personal savior! |
The prospect of lawsuits and heavy regulation based on the company's past involvement in the tobacco industry would be my guess. | |||
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I'm surprised it took them this long. Hell, years ago I said this. One day you'll be able to buy joints that are rolled, filtered and packaged just like cigarettes. ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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Big Stack |
So you want to reimpose Prohibition? That was an unmitigated disaster. That what really started the snowball down the hill of people deciding they really don't need to obey laws they don't like. It also spawned an organized crime syndicate that to a half a century to bring anywhere close to heal (it's still there but much weaker.) We're seeing the same effects with narcotics.
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We suffered when alcohol was illegal. Just because there was a law against it, it didn't stop alcoholism... It just drove the sale and profits underground. The same thing is happening with marijuana. Those that smoke, are going to smoke, ***MOST*** of those that don't, won't. It's not like the second it becomes legal, this place is going to turn into Reefer Madness. (Cue up the scary music) The biggest thing is going to be the price point. Make it better AND CHEAPER than what's being sold on a street corner. In my opinion, that's going to be the hardest thing to do. ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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quarter MOA visionary |
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posting without pants |
Cut my taxes (and everyone elses) by the revenue from taxing the wacky tobbaccy... I might be on board. Strive to live your life so when you wake up in the morning and your feet hit the floor, the devil says "Oh crap, he's up." | |||
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Oh stewardess, I speak jive. |
Taxes are almost never reduced by a meaningful amount, no matter the topic. At least not down at the consumer level. But I like where your head's at. Truly lower taxes, for a thousand reasons, would be fantastic. But maybe we can pay our debts / borrow less, and have fewer torn up roads, and pay police officers more to do more important work, and waste fewer dollars and people hours on the illegality of it, so on. But those are simply bonuses to Just Laws and Individual Liberty, which are the important bits. | |||
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