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why don't birds feet freeze ???

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January 09, 2019, 02:19 PM
roarindan
why don't birds feet freeze ???
Think about it, they grasp the branches so they have to have muscles, that requires blood circulation, and those feet are real tiny compared to all the cold. Humans freeze with boots on. And deer, horses, cows, bison,elk,wolfs, they be standing out in the snow all day too.


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January 09, 2019, 02:24 PM
YellowJacket
Birds’ legs and feet are covered with specialized scales that minimize heat loss. Birds can also control the temperature of their legs and feet separately from their bodies by constricting blood flow to their extremities, thereby reducing heat loss.

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January 09, 2019, 02:32 PM
grumpy1
Birds will also perch on one foot holding the other close to their body switching feet occasionally and turn their head so their beak is close to their body to reduce heat loss. Birds that don't like the cold/loss of primary food in winter head south for the winter like our robins do.
January 09, 2019, 02:46 PM
synthplayer
I thought it was because birds' feet were made of tree bark.



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January 09, 2019, 03:03 PM
sigfreund
An interesting question I’ve pondered myself.

I would bet a nickel, though, that there’s more to it than heat-retention strategies.

Birds don’t and cannot sit around huddled up all the time, even if they can do it during the coldest periods such as at night. The crows I feed walk around in the snow when the temperature is well below zero, and when my fingers would be all but useless after about 10 minutes if unprotected. There’s also no sign that their feet are warm enough to melt the snow, as my fingers do when I put them in a snowbank. They fly for long distances during very cold weather as well.

Birds’ feet are very small and thin, and it seems to me there must be some sort of antifreezing mechanism at work to keep them from freezing solid in a very short time when the temperature is –20°.




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January 09, 2019, 03:28 PM
Zeus007
The same reason they can stand on an electrocuted wire and not get shocked.
January 09, 2019, 04:19 PM
sigfreund
quote:
Originally posted by Zeus007:
The same reason they can stand on an electrocuted wire and not get shocked.


Actually ..., no, it's not. That much I do know for certain.




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January 09, 2019, 04:23 PM
Rey HRH
High metabolism. That's how they keep warm. THey have to eat so many multiples of their body weight every day. Just like I do.



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January 09, 2019, 04:24 PM
sigfreund
Why birds' feet don't freeze.




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January 09, 2019, 04:53 PM
calugo
They don't freeze because God engineered each creature to be able to thrive and survive in whatever environment they live.
January 09, 2019, 05:13 PM
Fenris
Wool socks




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January 09, 2019, 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by Fenris:
Wool socks


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January 09, 2019, 07:51 PM
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January 09, 2019, 08:07 PM
sigmonkey
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Originally posted by roarindan:... they have to have muscles, that requires blood circulation,...


They have tendons that "over travel" their little toe knuckles around the branch (locking them when they "squat") and then they can relax a bit and stay clinging without undue exertion in wind, and while birdnapping.

So, less heat loss or chilling of blood if they had muscles in their feets.

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January 09, 2019, 08:12 PM
Sig209
because they perch on power lines periodically to stay warm ??

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January 09, 2019, 08:17 PM
cparktd
What makes you think they don't freeze?

Some animals can freeze and thaw out unharmed.



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January 09, 2019, 08:31 PM
jjkroll32
Countercurrent Heat Exchange. Very cool physiologic adaptation that many cold weather creatures have.

Another example is sled dogs' feet.


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January 09, 2019, 09:36 PM
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January 10, 2019, 12:03 AM
barndg00
quote:
Originally posted by jjkroll32:
Countercurrent Heat Exchange. Very cool physiologic adaptation that many cold weather creatures have.

Another example is sled dogs' feet.


Just about to post this, but counter-current flow of blood shows up frequently it evolutionary adaptations - also in fish gills for extracting the maximum amount of oxygen from water.
January 10, 2019, 12:13 AM
YooperSigs
My favorite birds are Chickadees. Yooper Chickadees stay here all winter and are at my feeder everyday, no matter how cold. Their high metabolism requires lots of food to keep them from freezing. What everyone else has said about birdie feet is true. Highly adapted. If you are thinking about starting a bird feeder, feed to attract Chickadees. Friendly and tame, they will eat from your hands.


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