Clearly this is beyond stupid. I don't know who the International Association of Police Chief's is or how much power they have to influence policy but based on this alone it should be disbanded.

https://www.clickondetroit.com...n-serious-situations

TROY, Mich. - With police under fire for deadly use of force, a drastic new policy is being recommended: The return of the warning shot.

Local 4 Defender Kevin Dietz examined the controversial proposal and if it's a solution that can save lives.

Police officers are taught that if they fire their weapons, it's only for one reason: To kill bad guys. But now the International Association of Chiefs of Police is recommending police learn how to safely shoot warning shots to de-escalate serious situations.

If an officer decides to pull the trigger in a real-life situation, it's to kill dangerous criminals. They practice over and over to shoot for body mass, because they're taught only to shoot when deadly force is required.

But now there's a new way of thinking from the IACP. The organization is recommending police departments nationwide allow officers to use warning shots instead of shooting only to kill.

In his last message, IACP President Donald De Luca defined a warning shot as a "discharge of a firearm for the purpose of compelling compliance from an individual but not intended to cause physical injury."

De Luca added that a warning shot must be fired into a safe target and "must not pose a substantial risk of injury or death to the officers or others."

The idea behind a warning shot is to give police options other than shooting to kill, but local police officers said warning shots are a recipe for disaster.

"Firing a warning shot into the air is probably the worst idea ever," Troy police Officer Josh Jones said.

Jones said the number of scenarios in which a warning shot can backfire is frightening.

"To ask an officer to choose a safe location to fire a warning shot is a lot to put on even a highly trained officer," Jones said.

If an officer shoots into the air, a falling bullet could hit an innocent bystander.

"There have been cases where bullets have been fired into the air and come down a distance, a great distance, later and have struck and injured people," Jones said.

Even shooting into the ground can be dangerous.

"We don't know exactly what is in the ground," Jones said. "Is there a stone? A rock? Am I shooting on pavement? On concrete? All those circumstances are going to determine if the bullet deflects."

Shooting at the ceiling could pose a threat to somebody above.

"If you fire up into the air in drywall, you don't know exactly what penetration the bullet is going to have," Jones said. "Is there something or somebody that is upstairs? If you fire into the ground inside, you don't know what is below. What's in the foundation? A basement? A crawlspace?"

What happens if a police officer shoots a warning shot and other officers think it's a criminal shooting?

"In a dangerous situation, (if) an officer chooses to fire a warning shot, likely there are going to be other officers around," Jones said. "They are going to be responding to the scene."

It could also prompt an armed criminal to shoot back if it appears police are shooting at them.

"Maybe they will give up, or they may fight back, and a subject that may not have intended to actually fire at police officers would be induced to fire on the officer," Jones said.

Each department will decide if it wants to follow the IACP recommendation to add warning shots to their policy, but the city of Troy said it will not.

Morons

I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn last night and I can see how stupid this is.

How will the other officers know if the perp didnt do the shooting?

why just make the 1st 2 rounds in their guns blanks?

(Of course, you'd have to go back to revolvers since blanks don't cycle well in semi autos.)

Beyond stupid.
And the IACP is the epitome of the Peter Principal.

Yep

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Originally posted by Sailor1911:
Morons

How about have the officers carry a rock....they can throw it as a warning and if things escalate, then shoot the suspect in the leg because I'm pretty sure my idea is just as good as firing a warning shot.

Well, the Police could be forced to simply yell: "STOP"......"Or I'll yell STOP again".

And where exactly is that warning shot going?

So I guess next they'll recommend that shot #2 be either to the gun in their hand, or their big toe if they're not armed.

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:
And where exactly is that warning shot going?

Perhaps in the direction of the IACP president?...

Why not give the miscreants a stern talking-to?

Warning shot ...maybe center mass if the situation deems it necessary...I'm good with that.

And these are the people IN CHARGE of us.

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I don't know who the International Association of Police Chief's is or how much power they have

They are as in tune with the street cop as the International Assc of Fire Chiefs is with the line fire company.
Your choice between: Clueless and Not at all.

I've heard some really stupid things this year but this has to be in the top 2.

Their next suggestion may be a consent to be shot form. This would allow for a tactical pause and allow all parties involved a "cooling down" period. Now I can get back to my warning baton strikes.

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Originally posted by lkdr1989:
Yep

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Originally posted by Sailor1911:
Morons

How about have the officers carry a rock....they can throw it as a warning and if things escalate, then shoot the suspect in the leg because I'm pretty sure my idea is just as good as firing a warning shot.

NO NO NO!

Just shoot the gun/rock/knife out of the BG's hand!

Typical liberal bull shit! I cannot come to grips with how that "police organization" ever came up with that stupid bull shit!

Well.....if they are forced to fire warning shots, maybe it will be like back in the day and the perps will soak up the warning shots.

BANG! BANG! HALT! POLICE! Regards 18DAI

It's a great idea! And to be safe, the cops can carry clearing barrels with them. Just put a bale on the sand bucket, carry it as you chase the thug, run out a couple of yards and place the barrel, then shoot into it as a warning shot.

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De Luca added that a warning shot must be fired into a safe target and "must not pose a substantial risk of injury or death to the officers or others."

A safe target.

Like the person causing the need for a warning shot?