What comes out of the South end of a North bound Bull?

Interesting concept, but more technical information is needed. Lots of fluff in that video.

Mary is generally full of shit.

Even if the concept is sound, gm will probably fuck it up.

“If GM’s air powered engine lives up to its promises”
And if my Aunt had a dick, she’d be my Uncle.
Vaporware promises are not a strategy.

Is that Elizabeth Holmes?

Interesting choice of words, destroy instead of revolutionize.

There is a lot going on in the market place.

I tire of the "_ will destroy your _" crap, no matter the source.

I recall some years ago on Shark Tank there was a presenter (accompanied by Pat Boone) who was promoting an air-powered vehicle. I thought it was a very interesting concept, but didn't think they'd get enough energy density to make it anything more than a short-range in-city commuter vehicle. However, the savings in production cost, weight, and cost of operation promised to blow away EVs, and maybe ICEs as well, at least for its limited use case.

None of the "Sharks" were convinced to invest, and when the "air car" failed to appear in the market, I tried to follow up. Not to my great surprise, the business ran out of money before they actually built and sold a car.

So, if GM has managed to find technical innovations that reduce the cost of air compression and storage to meaningfully increase the energy density, I see no fundamental barriers to this being a big thing. Not enough confidence to buy GM stock, but not dismissing it out of hand. The other thing, if this turns out to be a real game changer, it seems unlikely that GM will be able to retain exclusive access to their IP, and other manufacturers will be able to compete.

I give it about the same likelihood as a vehicle powered by cold fusion, or perhaps finding a way to shrink a SMR (small mondular fission reactor) to backpack size. You'd probably still need to haul around a heat -> electric generation capability, but the thought of a 4WD sports car with 1,500 HP at each wheel is pretty appealing.

ICE engines are air pumps, this simply changes the power source from fuel such as gas, hydrogen, water/steam and air to cause the engine to move.....

Air powered has been an idea floating around for quite a while...

I really want to sit in a car with a flask of air, compressed to huge psi, that was manufactured by GM.

There may be quicker ways to die than getting blown apart by compressed air, but there are few more gruesome.

In addition, it will take more energy to compress and store the air, than will be released in the car, where gasoline contains more energy when stored in the car's tank than took to produce it. So, some greenie is going to have to explain where the efficiency is. It doesn't make much sense to expend more energy producing your fuel than you get from it.

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^^^^^^^
I remember GM and the late 90’s CNG trucks with the exploding tanks. I was acquainted and worked with the project manager of that fiasco after he left GM.

Gee Artie do you really have to apply logic to “feel good” stupidity^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Huh, I mean ideas?

I remember reading a good number of years ago that they have a lot of air powered cars in India and they’re pretty popular.

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There is a lot going on in the market place.

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Does 41 stand for 4/1? It’s not even April.

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Note to self: "buy more Tesla stock"

I’ll stick with good old burning dinosaurs. Sitting on a high pressure explosion risk has no appeal to me.

Maybe one of these days they will have a battery that will give you the driving range and won't have the fire hazard of burning your house down if the battery catches fire.

Put the compressed air tank in the back of a Ford Pinto. What could go wrong?

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Originally posted by ArtieS:
I really want to sit in a car with a flask of air, compressed to huge psi, that was manufactured by GM.

There may be quicker ways to die than getting blown apart by compressed air, but there are few more gruesome.

Yeah... someone else can go first...
I'm not trying that for a while.