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New York man faces illegal weapons charges after killing 2 burglars Fox News > New York man faces illegal weapons charges after killing 2 burglars in his home: report >>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/new...burglars-in-his-home *********************** * Diligentia Vis Celeritis * *********************** "Thus those skilled in war subdue the enemy's army without battle .... They conquer by strategy." - Sun Tsu - The Art of War "Fast is Fine, but Accuracy is Everything" - Wyatt Earp | ||
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Well, the key here will be to see what "illegally owned" means. If it's a violation of something stupid like a magazine restriction, then this could be an interesting test of bullshit laws. On the other hand, if he's a felon in possession, he's could be screwed. "I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation." Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II. | |||
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| Slayer of Agapanthus |
New York state, the confluence of mafia-thought and BOHICA politics. "It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye". The Little Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exupery, pilot and author, lost on mission, July 1944, Med Theatre. | |||
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The article said felony possession of an illegal handgun. Doesn’t look like he was a felon. He more than likely was in possession of a New York restricted hand gun or it was unregistered or he didn’t have a state permit to own one. You couldn’t pay me to live in that state. Georgia doesn’t even have state registration of firearms. ——————————————— The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1 | |||
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| SF Jake |
victimized twice....isn’t that nice  ________________________ Those who trade liberty for security have neither | |||
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| That rug really tied the room together.  |
Put me on the jury. IN fact, depending on what part of upper New York he lives, put ANYONE on the jury. He will be fine. ______________________________________________________ Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow | |||
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Hopefully he draws a good jury and beats the criminal charges. The real danger he faces is from whatever family these turds have; if they’re cut from the same kind of cloth, they might be thinking civil suit. Then the jury has to be at least 50% in his favor. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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The Unmanned Writer |
Ah yes, the ever changing Bill of Wants Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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King Nothing |
This. Unfortunately, he probably wasn't following his state's stupid laws. I know all about that obviously. If you're going to live in states with stupid laws, best to follow them. I see a lot of people with the mentality of "no one's going to find out, fuck those dumb laws." This guy might have had that mentality... ...Then it comes to be that the soothing light at the end of your tunnel, was just a freight train coming your way... | |||
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| Big Stack |
If he doesn't have a permit for the gun, and there are very few permits in NYC, he'll likely do a year in jail for it. | |||
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| Ignored facts still exist |
He wasn't in NYC. Article clearly says so. . | |||
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Perhaps he was merely accurately assessing his chances of being 64 years old and potentially facing multiple opponents. As it turned out he did in this case, which included a male less than half his age. He may have felt that his life was worth more than any punishment which the State of New York could mete out to him for illegal possession of a firearm. | |||
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| Ignored facts still exist |
But regardless he's still alive. There's a saying, "Better to be tried by 12 than carried by 6." Seems he at least met the goal of staying alive. Which is first and foremost. . | |||
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| You're going to feel a little pressure... |
Oneida County is way out in the sticks. Most of those counties are Shall Issue for carry permits so he could easily have had one, if not a felon. If he had a permit and just somehow got his hands on a handgun and didn't register it, he will be totally fine. Unregistered firearm possessed by a permit holder is like jaywalking. However, you are not allowed to even handle a handgun *in a gun store* without a valid permit. If he has no permit, he will likely be charged and convicted. Handguns are so verboten and the prohibition is so commonly known that jury nullification will not be an option. It would be easy to get 12 people to say "Yup, no hanguns without a permit. Everybody knows that" and find him guilty. His only hope is that the DA defers prosecution because it was a good shoot and he feels sorry for him and about the civil suits to come. Bruce "The designer of the gun had clearly not been instructed to beat about the bush. 'Make it evil,' he'd been told. 'Make it totally clear that this gun has a right end and a wrong end. Make it totally clear to anyone standing at the wrong end that things are going badly for them. If that means sticking all sort of spikes and prongs and blackened bits all over it then so be it. This is not a gun for hanging over the fireplace or sticking in the umbrella stand, it is a gun for going out and making people miserable with." -Douglas Adams “It is just as difficult and dangerous to try to free a people that wants to remain servile as it is to try to enslave a people that wants to remain free." -Niccolo Machiavelli The trouble with fighting for human freedom is that one spends most of one's time defending scoundrels. For it is against scoundrels that oppressive laws are first aimed, and oppression must be stopped at the beginning if it is to be stopped at all. -Mencken | |||
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You need a permit just to own a gun in rural NY? Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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Used to be a time when he'd be pefectly fine with a jury trial in that part of CNY. Nowadays? He's screwed. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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| Little ray of sunshine  |
Good shooting, Mr. Stolarczyk. I feel sorry that NY puts him in that position. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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| Big Stack |
Oh, okay. It was Utica. But still most of the gun laws are at the state level. The judges up there MIGHT be more lenient, but the laws may not give them too much leeway.
Yes. This is ALL of NYS. The same for NJ also.
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
The recidivism rate for dead crooks is zero point zero. | |||
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Still finding my way |
Are they sure one of the crooks didn't bring that gun?  | |||
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