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Rail-less and Tail-less |
I'm really surprised with how safety concious our society is these days that seat belts and airbags haven't been mandated yet. _______________________________________________ Use thumb-size bullets to create fist-size holes. | |||
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Dies Irae |
I remember reading in Motor Trend an interview with the head of the NHTSA? DOT?. That very question was asked (IIRC, this was back in the '80s). The answer was that with the most charitable math, there was an enormous amount of miles driven per wreck/fatality. So the position was that it was wouldn't effectively lower injuries or death. | |||
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No double standards |
I prob shouldn't say this, but I wish he could go through your punishment a more than once. "Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it" - Judge Learned Hand, May 1944 | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
That driver isn't going to last long, one of those parents of a dead child is going to make sure of that. | |||
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So when he strolled into his job interview, what was there about this dude that said: "Hey, what a great choice to drive our kids! He looks so responsible"! End of Earth: 2 Miles Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles | |||
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Member |
If the guards keep getting there in time to break it up before the inmates manage to actually kill the guy, he'll get to go through it again. Those who forget the pasta are condemned to reheat it. | |||
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Muzzle flash aficionado |
Yep, even convicts don't like people who hurt kids. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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4-H Shooting Sports Instructor |
As someone that is Very familiar with School buses. 15 yrs driving..and 10 working on them, I can help you here. School buses are designed to have a small padded area for the students to be in the seats are high backed and close together. This is actually safer for kids than seat belts because there is less pelvic damage in a crash. I dont want to cause any bad juju but Ohio has only lost one child inside a school bus since 1960.. that is Millions of miles all over the state. The one child we lost was a very similar accident to the one in Tenn. it was a roof collision, buses are reinforced on all sides but the roof is not really designed for impact. _______________________________ 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but > because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton NRA Endowment Life member NRA Pistol instructor...and Range Safety instructor Women On Target Instructor. | |||
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An investment in knowledge pays the best interest |
His bail was set @ only $20K. What do you want to bet that he doesn't show up to court after his cuz sells the next dope bag and springs him. WTF was the judge thinking? | |||
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Official Space Nerd |
I always thought it was because of liability that they didn't have seat belts. How do you guarantee EVERY child wears their seat belt? A driver cannot monitor every kid's belt - they are task saturated as is.. Would they put another adult on every bus to monitor it? And whose fault is it when an accident occurs and a child wasn't buckled? The parents would sue the school, county, or whatever agency running the busses. I know what I was like as a child - I would not have worn a belt if I didn't want to... Fear God and Dread Nought Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher | |||
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Muzzle flash aficionado |
Yep. When I rode a bus it was impossible to even keep the kids in their seats--they would not have worn seat belts. flashguy Texan by choice, not accident of birth | |||
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Member |
Enforcement is definitely the real issue. Unless there is a seatbelt monitor on every bus from kindergarten to high school, the kids just won't buckle up, and there's no way the driver could know. But who would be accused of negligence when another kid got hurt? The driver. No way in heaven or hell would I ever consider driving a bus with seat belts installed for the passengers. No way. -------------------------- Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. -- H L Mencken I always prefer reality when I can figure out what it is. -- JALLEN 10/18/18 | |||
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Coin Sniper |
They sure as hell make me wear a seat belt every time I sit down on an airplane. There is no reason this can't be a rule on a school bus Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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Go Vols! |
When I rode the school bus they stacked us 3 wide which meant the aisle person barely had one cheek on the seat. | |||
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Unhyphenated American |
You got part of a seat? I had to stand up until some seats were empty. __________________________________________________________________________________ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always remember that others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself. Richard M Nixon It's nice to be important, it's more important to be nice. Billy Joe Shaver NRA Life Member | |||
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Go Vols! |
3 or 4 stood in back until some were dropped off. After a couple years we finally got a big flat nose bus. | |||
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Plowing straight ahead come what may |
The driver was not even supposed to be on that road...it was not on his bus route...they do not know why he was on it http://www.chattanoogan.com/20...rash-Somestimes.aspx ******************************************************** "we've gotta roll with the punches, learn to play all of our hunches Making the best of what ever comes our way Forget that blind ambition and learn to trust your intuition Plowing straight ahead come what may And theres a cowboy in the jungle" Jimmy Buffet | |||
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After I retired, I drove a school bus for ten years. There is no way in hell seatbelts would work on a school bus. That's why they used the idea of padded seating areas to protect the passengers. This idea has been kicked around for years, but it simply will not work ...unless you have about one adult monitor for every kid on the damn buss. Forget it folks, it just don't work that way. You are just whistling in the wind if you think it would. "If you think everything's going to be alright, you don't understand the problem!"- Gutpile Charlie "A man's got to know his limitations" - Harry Callahan | |||
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Coin Sniper |
Except the last 3 rows that were each seat was occupied by one bully who would beat your ass if you dared sit down without permission Pronoun: His Royal Highness and benevolent Majesty of all he surveys 343 - Never Forget Its better to be Pavlov's dog than Schrodinger's cat There are three types of mistakes; Those you learn from, those you suffer from, and those you don't survive. | |||
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