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No surprise.

On one side you have these professional team owners who cry poor and willing to strong-arm a community to build them an arena/stadium or they'll pack-up and move. Since American professional sports are built around exclusive club licenses (gotta pay to play) and depending upon the league, a level of revenue sharing from broadcasting rights and merchandising, these organizations are far from being poor. There are some owners who are clearly not as bright or, as wealthy as others and those teams are their sole revenue stream; thinking Mark Davis. They only way they can get anything done is pleading for civic accommodations or, taking on additional investors because the banks refuse to loan them anything.

Then there's the cities, who's mayors and supervisor/couincil boards are so infested with economic ignoramus' that any gathering where the topic is business, job creation and economics results in meetings that are so toxic and poisonous that nobody in their right mind would stick around to endure such a relationship. Oakland is prime example, within a decade the Raiders, Warriors and Athletic's all said 'peace out, we're outta here'. San Francisco with Gavin Newsom as mayor and a far-left board couldn't find some common ground with the 49ers. I can only imagine what it was like for the McCasky's (who my understanding are no shining example of ownership) trying to find a solution with mayor Johnson and the clown show called Chicago government.

I have zero sympathy for these's teams nor do I blame them for packing up and leaving.
 
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If it creates chaos and discord in the NFL, I’m all for it.



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To those who corrected me on Topeka. Thank you for that. Where did I get Topeka? Anyways, so then they will be the Olathe Chiefs.

Good grief.



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Really piss off Chicago by moving North and becoming the Milwaukee Bears.
 
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To those who corrected me on Topeka. Thank you for that. Where did I get Topeka? Anyways, so then they will be the Olathe Chiefs.

Good grief.


1) I believe when they had their press conference it was in Topeka.
2) The offices will in Olathe. The stadium will be in Wyandotte County. They'll be the Kansas City, KS Chiefs instead of the Kansas City, MO Chiefs.
 
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To be fair, the place they're looking to move is less than 5000 ft from Illinois. Just enough to change the tax regime, but the traffic will still be miserable.

The Giants and the Jets moved to NJ, but they are still the NY Giants and the NY Jets. So if a they make a short move to Indiana, I could see them keeping the Chicago name.
 
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Another iconic stadium to go down. Or is this just a ploy to squeeze the taxpayer for the Bears.


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To be fair, the place they're looking to move is less than 5000 ft from Illinois. Just enough to change the tax regime, but the traffic will still be miserable.

The Giants and the Jets moved to NJ, but they are still the NY Giants and the NY Jets. So if a they make a short move to Indiana, I could see them keeping the Chicago name.
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The Giants and the Jets moved to NJ, but they are still the NY Giants and the NY Jets.


Yeah, Haven't seen them change to the Cobb Braves either, so they should be good.




 
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I can understand the economics, but the location is surrounded for many miles by hell, no?




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Hammond and Gary aren't great, but compared to Chicago....I'll take Indiana.




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I can understand the economics, but the location is surrounded for many miles by hell, no?

Yes, and it would add an hour to the drive time of most season ticket holders. It would likely reduce attendance. But most of the money is from TV… so who cares?



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Nothing to do with Illinois or Chicago tax regime or governance. It's all about which public entity will pay the most cost for the stadium. You can't convince me an extra $.25 tax on a stadium beer concerns the NFL/Owners in the least.


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