I am in the market for a New to newer 3/4-1 ton gas truck. NO diesel! I currently have a 2001 Chevy 4x4 2500HD 6.0 gas and a 4x2 2002 F-250SD 7.3 diesel. I am getting rid of both of them and would like a gas truck.

Looking at the GM 6.6L, Ford 6.2L, and Dodge 6.4L. I am leaning more towards a one-ton(no dually) and the GM, but would like to hear from actual users and their experience.

I recently (about 6 months ago) bought a 2013 F250 4x4 with the 6.2 liter gas engine. I was wary of the high miles (200,000), but after doing research on the engine, and reading comments from people towing with them, my worries were cast aside.

Seems many are towing well into the 300-400k mile range with no problems. Change the oil regularly, and the other maintenance items, and it just keeps running.

So far, I haul a 500 gallon water tank every week, have taken a couple of long trips, and the engine just keeps pulling. I am very impressed. The 6.2 has a lot of power for what it is, and plenty of torque. I have no problems recommending the Ford 6.2 motor. Gas mileage has been about 11 mpg towing, and up to 15 hwy, empty.

Hope that helps.

I’m not a big fan of the Ford 6.2. It’s not that it’s a bad engine, I just feel like it delivers poorer fuel economy for its performance than the rest. I also feel like it’s the least powerful of the three. The 6.4 hemi is a powerhouse. Even loaded down it gets up and goes. It’s a pig in the fuel department, possibly even worse than the Ford but in the seat of the pants, in my opinion it feels like it delivers the goods. I don’t have personal experience with the new 6.6 GM V8, but I have lots of experience with the last generation. I never had any issues with my GM and felt like they delivered much better fuel economy than the competition. The last gen felt like it had a little less oomph than the hemi but better than the Ford and with much better fuel economy than both. My guess is that the new 6.6 probably puts the GM at least equal to the hemi in the power department. The GM gas engine would be my first choice amongst the 3.

Not on your list but if want a solid, heavy duty truck...the Tundra is every bit as HD as my old 2500 minus the diesel engine. The construction, integral trailer brake system, huge rear end, tow hitch mounted up over rear axle not just bolted to back end of frame for better strength and weight distribution. In 2022 the rumor is going to v6 twin turbo away from the 5.7L V8 torque monster. Mine is going great and haul double axle trailer with tractor and implements on it with ease.... When I need a new truck...am leaning towards the GMC 6.6L 2500 HD as next truck if Toyota gets rid of V8 as rumored. If tow only occasionally, the 2021 Tundra would be at top or near top along with GMC 2500 for gas vehicles.

It’s good not to focus solely on engine when working a truck. In my experience the Ford Super Duty chassis overall holds up better than GM or Dodge/Ram. It’s a whole new ballgame as compared to a 1/2 ton that is mainly just a grocery getter. If I were buying new and wanted gas I would go with Ford’s new Godzilla 7.3 gas V8.

Having said that I agree with bigpond, the 6.2 Ford is a durable engine. But nothing beats a diesel if the truck is going to be worked regularly.

Power Surge beat me to the 7.3 gas. I have no experience with it, but I've been seeing more and more of them and they're hauling some heavy loads. Do have plenty of experience with the GM's though. Their gas offerings are costing a few companies around me a lot in rebuilds/new engines and for some reason, transmissions. The company my brother works for has nothing but trouble out of their fleet. Could be their maintenance schedule isn't kept very well, but losing an engine at 40K shouldn't be an issue even with bare minimum maintenance. Out of 200 GM's, maybe 5 haven't had problems. Years range from 2015-21. Even the bosses new 21 has been in for shifting/transmission issues

Me too on Powesurge's report. GM's over all do not last. While I do not like Ford's we are going all elect BS. I do not know about Dodge. Kind of hard to trust them. I recently drove an F350 4x4 with the 6.2. It was fine. It is all about budget in my mind. If I had $25K to spend I would be looking at Ford, then Dodge probably.

I am with PowerSurge. Nothing beats a Ford Super Duty for longevity, and that new Godzilla engine appears to be a BEAST.

I spoke with a guy at a gas station who had just finished a 2000 mile trip through the Rockies towing a 33' camper trailer, and he said he went through the mountains on cruise control. Never stopped pulling, never slowed down, and didn't need a turbo to maintain power.

Perhaps there is a reason that most of the class C motorhomes are on Ford E-350s and E-450 gas cutaways.

I don't drive a pickup, but...

Anyone 'in the market for a New to newer 3/4-1 ton' Pickup should be seriously considering and/or test driving the 2019-2021 Dodge Ram....Just Sayin'

ArtieS, curious, did he mention the gas mileage?

I buying the 6.4 Hemi 2500 Ram later this year as my ownership experience with my 1500 5.7 Hemi has been over the top.

FWIW... here’s a comparison on mileage. They’ve also done some on towing, etc

https://youtu.be/_IzE-P7WJ8E

Interesting that the Ford with a 3" lift, 37" tires and the larger 7.3 engine gets about the same mpg as the stock Dodge which even has a bed cover. I couldn't tell if the Ford has a cover or not.
Still, spending $71K on a truck that under the most ideal condition only delivers 16mpg makes my wallet hurt.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
ArtieS, curious, did he mention the gas mileage?

I asked him in the context of buying a diesel instead for his kind of towing. I don't recall exactly what he said about mileage, but I remember it was better than I expected. My comparison point was towing a 25' Wellcraft from Warren RI, to Point Judith RI with a 1983 F250 4x4 with a carbureted 351 Windsor. I got about 6-7 mpg. He did better than that through the mountains with a heavier load. He also said that based on his mileage and use, online calculators indicated it would take him 350,000 miles to break even on cost with the diesel.

My BIL just bought a Superduty with the 7.3 gas and he couldn't be happier. Said he doesn't even feel the travel trailer and the braking system works fantastic.

Lots of good input here folks! As earlier I mentioned about leaning towards the GMs, mainly GMC. The Chevy's are fugly!! My current 2500HD I have had since 2003 and very reliable. But, I really like the look and overall appearance of the Ford. My truck is not a daily work/pulling truck, so I couldn't justify the extra cost for the Ford's 7.3 gas.

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Originally posted by taco68:
Lots of good input here folks! As earlier I mentioned about leaning towards the GMs, mainly GMC. The Chevy's are fugly!! My current 2500HD I have had since 2003 and very reliable. But, I really like the look and overall appearance of the Ford. My truck is not a daily work/pulling truck, so I couldn't justify the extra cost for the Ford's 7.3 gas.

I've owned a 2008, and now a 2016 Chevy 2500 6.0. Like the old commercial, " like a Rock!" Rock solid reliable. They are using a slightly upgraded 6 speed behind the new 6.6 gas. If I hit the Powerball tonight, I'd get a GMC AT4 in a heartbeat !!

If you really dont need the 6.6, there are plenty of gently used late model 6.0's out there . 2020 iirc was when they went 6.6 gas.

I can' tell you anything about the GMC or RAM. But I have a farm and have had 3 Superduty Fords in use for a long time. Currently 2 of them are 6.2gas. I have in the range of 300K miles on these engines and the only issue was one of them had a bad ignition module many years ago. I would have no issue recommending it as an engine. It's not the best towing engine at max gross (I would get the 7.3 if that's your need) but its a very serviceable and reliable powerplant. Depending on rear end I think gas mileage is very reasonable. The newest versions have the 10speed behind them I think (my newest is a 2018 and the 6 speed) and I'm told its a very nice transmission but I have no personal experience. Given my experience with the Superduties compared to my friends and neighbors with other brands I think it is the best of the options in the gas 1t (F350) size.