RIP Peanut the Squirrel

November 05, 2024, 09:44 AM

airsoft guy

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Originally posted by 92fstech:
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Originally posted by 220-9er:
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Even if there's more to the story than is being reported, I don't understand euthanizing the animals, though

The story I heard is the squirrel bit one of the thugs on the finger and they euthanized him and the raccoon to do the rabies test.

Still doesn’t minimize the ridiculousness of the raiding of the house.

Hmm. So was the warrant for pornographic materials and the animals got caught up in it, or was it specifically for the animals, either intentionally or pretextually to look for porn? Sounds like there's a lot more detail that needs to be made public before we'll know the full story on this one.

Seems to me if it's porn they were after, the FBI should have been there.

Who knows though, The Man stepped in it, and there's a lot of bullshit being tossed around to make this seem like it was something other than a jerkoff powertrip by bullies who don't like being told "no".

November 05, 2024, 09:53 AM

dave7378

Pretty disgusting abuse of power. As an owner of a pest control business for 30 years, I have had many, many interactions with the NYSDEC. They are getting excoriated here, and rightly so. That would not have ended well for me. I can be irrational when it comes to my pets.

November 05, 2024, 10:02 AM

92fstech

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Seems to me if it's porn they were after, the FBI should have been there

We had a case locally of some sexual material posted online involving a dog. County animal control worked it. And no, they didn't euthanize the dog.

And arfmel is also correct...typically in the case of an animal bite with no documented rabies vaccine we quarantine the animal for 10 days for observation to determine if the person needs to get shots. But that's typically dogs and cats...wild animals would be more of a challenge to contain.

Not saying that's what's going on here...just that it sounds like we need a lot more details to put together the whole story. It's entirely possible these folks are innocent, caring people being abused by an overzealous government agency. Or they could be molesting little woodland creatures. The truth is probably somewhere in between.

November 05, 2024, 10:21 AM

Aglifter

A) There’s part of me which thinks they mentioned the only fans to try to capitalize on the publicity. Not sure, but I suspect if they were doing anything near the line, OF would kick them off. (Had a limited, professional, interaction with porn sites, to get some illegal content removed. They were very accommodating, very aggressive about removing it, and far more interested in supporting prosecution than the local FBI.)

B) Destroying domesticated game/fur bearers might be fairly normal - though both raccoons and squirrels are fairly common rural pets, especially if they bite someone.

C) This was a complete waste of resources, unless it was a “we can get a warrant for the squirrel, and maybe while we are in there, we can see some evidence of Major Felony in plain sight.”

That happens all the time. I’m sure the squirrel didn’t deserve it, but I just don’t see bureaucrats being motivated to do much over a squirrel.

November 05, 2024, 12:07 PM

220-9er

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Originally posted by arfmel:
I believe another option, in the case of an animal bite, is to confine the animal for 21 days to see if it develops symptoms or dies of rabies. If it does, the victim of the bite needs to get rabies shots.

Naturally, this method presupposes that the government agency’s primary motivation wasn’t to seize and kill somebody’s pets.

That's fine if the animal in question may have been bitten by a rabid animal, but hasn't itself bitten a human.

If you were to wait that long, the human would be past the date that shots would save them.
FWIW, squirrels almost never get rabies.
The theory is that because they are a small animal, an attack by another rabid animal usually results in their death from the attack, not the disease.

Since this squirrel was an indoor pet, it's even more unlikely to have had rabies. I suspect they did that mostly as another way to get back at the owner.

November 05, 2024, 12:19 PM

kkina

A squirrel with rabies is extremely rare as mentioned. No human has ever gotten rabies from a squirrel in the US.

(I was bitten by one of the fuzzy rodents once. He fell down my chimney and got myself bit extracting him from my bedsheets. I did not get rabies. Did not even see the need to get tested, much less have anything euthanized. They do bite hard, btw, probably due to their nut-busting capabilities.)

And why did they kill both of them? Did they both bite someone?

November 05, 2024, 01:54 PM

arfmel

Ten days, not 21. My bad.

The point remains, though, that there was NO NEED to kill the squirrel to check it for rabies. They had another motive.

“The local rabies control authority needs to have any biting dog, cat, or domestic ferret tested for rabies or observed for ten days. If the quarantined dog, cat, or domestic ferret is alive ten days after the bite, it could not have given you rabies. If the animal shows signs of rabies or dies during the observation period, it must be tested for rabies.

Biting skunks, bats, foxes, coyotes, and raccoons must be tested for rabies. If bitten by another kind of animal, the local rabies control authority will decide if it needs to be tested or observed for rabies.”

https://www.dshs.texas.gov/not...nd-conditions/rabies

November 05, 2024, 03:17 PM

architect

I'm quite sure we will get a press announcement of the results of the rabies test within a few days (NOT!) Right after the results of the investigation into the Whitehouse cocaine.

November 05, 2024, 03:45 PM

bordeth

Just one more example of the nonsense in the People's Republic of New York. The group of liberal malcontents running that state will never figure out why their subjects have been leaving the state in droves over the past few decades.

November 06, 2024, 05:30 AM

Aglifter

https://babylonbee.com/news/ra...-hats-begin-uprising

November 06, 2024, 07:30 AM

Mr. Peteroniman

I think this is the straw that broke the 'undecided voters' back - and gave Trump the popular vote

November 06, 2024, 09:34 AM

Sig2340

PRAYERS FOR PEANUT!

REPARATIONS for the RACCOON!

November 06, 2024, 09:46 AM

ulsterman

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Originally posted by CPD SIG:
Ive done a shit load of Search Warrants in my 29+ years. A few hundred I authored. I’ve been in front of a bunch of Judges and States Attorneys to do so. Dope, guns, evidence, all of which were felonies.
I’m assuming the process in New York is somewhat similar, and learning a few things about NY, the process may be more restrictive than Chicago’s / Cook County.

I can’t see a Judge, in their right mind signing off on this.
“Your Honor, could you take a look at this Warrant. It’s for a squirrel. And a Raccoon!”

There is no way in hell that I could ever, even in the wildest drug induced hallucinations, ever think of tapping out a Warrant for that shit.

If some outside unit came into the office: “Hey, I need a team for a Search Warrant… for a squirrel. And a raccoon…”
After we laughed at them, they would probably get their asses beat.

I’ve met thousands of Cops from all over the world. Whoever the punk-ass bitch is that thought this was a good idea, needs to get the ever loving shit kicked out of them for a long time, and get stripped of any sort of authority AND the privilege of owning any sort of pet for the rest of their lives.

Me too. If they had brought that warrant to us to serve, we'd probably had a "closed door session" with them.

November 06, 2024, 10:54 AM

Georgeair

Greg Gutfeld on the importance of Peanut raid.

November 06, 2024, 11:53 AM

PASig

https://x.com/CaptainHottub/st.../1854191591608484091

November 06, 2024, 05:26 PM

vthoky

Palmetto State is offering a "Squirrel-15" stripped lower.

(Link)

November 06, 2024, 06:24 PM

DennisM

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Originally posted by ulsterman:
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Originally posted by CPD SIG:
Ive done a shit load of Search Warrants in my 29+ years. A few hundred I authored. I’ve been in front of a bunch of Judges and States Attorneys to do so. Dope, guns, evidence, all of which were felonies.
I’m assuming the process in New York is somewhat similar, and learning a few things about NY, the process may be more restrictive than Chicago’s / Cook County.

I can’t see a Judge, in their right mind signing off on this.
“Your Honor, could you take a look at this Warrant. It’s for a squirrel. And a Raccoon!”

There is no way in hell that I could ever, even in the wildest drug induced hallucinations, ever think of tapping out a Warrant for that shit.

If some outside unit came into the office: “Hey, I need a team for a Search Warrant… for a squirrel. And a raccoon…”
After we laughed at them, they would probably get their asses beat.

I’ve met thousands of Cops from all over the world. Whoever the punk-ass bitch is that thought this was a good idea, needs to get the ever loving shit kicked out of them for a long time, and get stripped of any sort of authority AND the privilege of owning any sort of pet for the rest of their lives.

Me too. If they had brought that warrant to us to serve, we'd probably had a "closed door session" with them.

Agree. I'm a Search and Seizure nerd, and a past master at writing warrants that made other agencies ask "Wait, you can actually charge somebody with this?" We generally used it as an Al Capone-style pressure point (yeah, we have PC for a boring white collar but still criminal Equity Skimming violation, but we expect to find WAY more serious stuff if we can crack the safe open, etc.)

Nowhere in an Alice in Wonderland-style alternate reality could even I turn a misdemeanor game violation into a protracted search of people's literal laundry, followed by euthanizing the object of my search. I suspect that if I tried, my boss would've Darth Vader-style air choked me for wasting resources. If dragged other agencies into that cluster, he would've had to stand in line to do it.