Fair enough:

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The officers were there to arrest a 26-year-old man for failing to register as a sex offender. The Randolph County Sheriff's Department said the task force included members of its office, as well as the Moberly Police Department and the North Missouri Drug Task Force. They were serving an arrest warrant in coordination with the U.S. Marshals Service, the sheriff's department said.

It may take an entire task force to serve an arrest warrant in some cases.

Nevertheless, I don't like seeing large, militarized units in the community. It makes me think there's a thin veneer between our perception of civilized society and the anarchy that comes before tyranny.

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Originally posted by trapper189:
In reading the article, it seems the nine guys were locals from three different agencies.

USMS Fugitive Task Forces are typically made up of a small number of actual Deputy US Marshals, along with a larger number of local officers from local law enforcement agencies within that federal district that are attached to the unit as either part time or full time Task Force Officers.

These local guys get sworn in as Special Deputy US Marshals with some limited USMS authority (mainly to widen their jurisdiction) and may get some additional training on things like target surveillance, high risk warrant service, room clearing, and CQB tactics, but are not actual DUSMs or federal agents.

So many of the guys on the scene would have been local TFOs.

Then, it would be apropos to add one or two Animal Control Officers in case the offender had a dog(s).

How else would they deal with a do ...

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Oh. right.
never mind.

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we don’t have any clue about the guy they were arresting except that he is a sex offender.

Hang on! I'm having a tough time typing this out due to my uncontrolled laughter.

Seriously.

Here's the "guy" they needed an entire platoon for!

https://www.mshp.dps.mo.gov/CJ...umn=name&id=60738407

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They could watch the guy and arrest him while getting out of his car going to Burger king or
the grocery story.

I hope we get body cam video of the arrest and it's a 90 pound female officer who took him into custody on her own with no incident.

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Originally posted by a1abdj:

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we don’t have any clue about the guy they were arresting except that he is a sex offender.

Hang on! I'm having a tough time typing this out due to my uncontrolled laughter.

Seriously.

Here's the "guy" they needed an entire platoon for!

https://www.mshp.dps.mo.gov/CJ...umn=name&id=60738407

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They could watch the guy and arrest him while getting out of his car going to Burger king or
the grocery story.

I hope we get body cam video of the arrest and it's a 90 pound female officer who took him into custody on her own with no incident.

Through the front door, using the doorbell.

All kidding aside, I’m sure there are times where this approach is warranted. In this case, I think they are using it as practice for those times. But no way is a pervert teenager who just “failed to register” this level of threat. And if you asked any of the poor fuckers on the ground, I’m sure they’d admit as much. These are (IMO) training exercises for more serious events.

Well OK then, nine guys seems excessive.

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Originally posted by trapper189:

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Originally posted by chellim1:
The Feds always seem to need overwhelming militarized force for everything.

In reading the article, it seems the nine guys were locals from three different agencies.

I don’t understand the armchair quarterbacking about the number of guys when we don’t have any clue about the guy they were arresting except that he is a sex offender.

So cops have guns, tazers, batons, pepper spray, restraints, tactical gear and am sure a few additional things. Nine guys is a ridiclous over keel and it turns out he is a bs she to boot.

Oh, and our LE agency's can't patrol the streets and go after bad guys because they are under funded. How much did this little operation cost?

When our street patrol officers are the nuts and bolts of LE. They could of handled this just like a bunch of other things the do on a daily basis. Including a couple detectives to slap the cuffs on it.

These deals are bs.
And the drum beat continues. "no money"

A "she" named Jacob with what appears to be an adams apple in the photos. If trans, many are known to be violent.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
These deals are bs.

Served many warrants?

They could have used your experience and expertise in this case...

https://www.usmarshals.gov/new...warrant-charlotte-nc

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I try not to paint with a broad brush. That being said I generally have a very high regard for members of this forum. Disappointed with some responses.

Is there another occupation where someone has little to no experience and yet feels compelled to correct those who do it for a living?

I don’t have a crystal ball so I can’t tell those gentleman what the minimum number of officers and equipment they will need without offending someone’s sensibilities. If you guess wrong there will be funerals. Plenty of officers have died on “routine” operations. Doesn’t take a large or physically imposing individual to cause a lot of damage. Substance abuse, and mental health, combined with just the luck of some are a real thing.

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Originally posted by McGregor:
To my untrained eye it sure doesn't look like that deck was properly supported.

As it turns out, those 8-penny nails do NOT take the place of support posts. Who knew?



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Originally posted by RR:
I try not to paint with a broad brush. That being said I generally have a very high regard for members of this forum. Disappointed with some responses.

Is there another occupation where someone has little to no experience and yet feels compelled to correct those who do it for a living?

I don’t have a crystal ball so I can’t tell those gentleman what the minimum number of officers and equipment they will need without offending someone’s sensibilities. If you guess wrong there will be funerals. Plenty of officers have died on “routine” operations. Doesn’t take a large or physically imposing individual to cause a lot of damage. Substance abuse, and mental health, combined with just the luck of some are a real thing.

You have video proof of the "experts." How did that go for them?

My job requires a lot of visits to the same houses over many years. A lot of the houses look as bad as this building. I have many notes like, "stay off the deck", because I don't want to take a spill like the one in this video.

I wouldn't condemn this particular deck just looking at it, but I'd have my doubts about it, and I'd be real aware of bouncing and general sketchiness. My impression is that my first time on that deck would be my last time on that deck.

I bet the deck gave plenty of warnings that it had given up on life, and that people were too task-focused to notice the warnings.

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Originally posted by FenderBender:

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Originally posted by RR:
I try not to paint with a broad brush. That being said I generally have a very high regard for members of this forum. Disappointed with some responses.

Is there another occupation where someone has little to no experience and yet feels compelled to correct those who do it for a living?

I don’t have a crystal ball so I can’t tell those gentleman what the minimum number of officers and equipment they will need without offending someone’s sensibilities. If you guess wrong there will be funerals. Plenty of officers have died on “routine” operations. Doesn’t take a large or physically imposing individual to cause a lot of damage. Substance abuse, and mental health, combined with just the luck of some are a real thing.

You have video proof of the "experts." How did that go for them?

If you’re referring to the video in this thread, there were definitely some unforeseen structural challenges lol

Thinking about the training aspect, I asked AI:

A strong support system is the foundation of high unit cohesion. When team members feel supported both personally and professionally, trust increases, stress decreases, and collective performance skyrockets.

Why Support Drives Cohesion

Builds psychological safety: Members take calculated risks and admit mistakes without fear of judgment.

Reduces burnout: Shared burdens prevent individual exhaustion during high-stress operations.

Enhances trust: Knowing peers "have your back" creates unbreakable bonds.

Aligns goals: Shared support shifts the mindset from individual survival to collective success.

Key Pillars of a Unit Support System

Pillar Focus Area Impact on Cohesion

Peer-to-Peer Mutual reliance and daily check-ins Creates immediate, ground-level camaraderie.

Leadership Resource allocation and clear advocacy Builds institutional trust and psychological
safety.

Institutional Mental health resources and family programs Alleviates external stressors so members can
focus.

Red Flags of a Failing Support System

Siloed communication: Information hoarding or cliques forming.

Blame culture: Pointing fingers instead of solving problems together.

High turnover: Members actively seeking to leave the unit.

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Originally posted by trapper189:

Red Flags of a Failing Support System

Siloed communication: Information hoarding or cliques forming.

Blame culture: Pointing fingers instead of solving problems together.

High turnover: Members actively seeking to leave the unit.

Falling deck might be another red flag of a Failing Support System.

Hmm, I guess everyone forgets all the shootings that trans have done, along with how many and often threats of violence they post.

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Hmm, I guess everyone forgets all the shootings that trans have done, along with how many and often threats of violence they post.

I haven't forgotten. I'm just of the belief that it should take 9 of them to take out one of me, not the other way around.

As a lifelong husky kid, structural integrity is something deeply ingrained into my being.

9 grown ass men and not a one said boss that shit is too rickety for all of us. How about we go in in waves?