Political ideology versus Religious Ideology…..their goals and results are the same. Religious terrorists will usually commit suicide or go down in shootout, maximum carnage. Political terrorists will fight their perceived oppressor system resulting in deaths that are a political statement and causing fear, and then use the protections from that same system to hide and protect them.
As for those who do the indoctrination, there really isn’t any difference, with one exception: the main stream media is part of the indoctrination process in the USA.
Stochastic Terrorism
Stochastic terrorism is a form of political violence[citation needed] instigated by hostile public rhetoric directed at a group or an individual. Unlike incitement to terrorism, stochastic terrorism is accomplished with indirect, vague or coded language, which grants the instigator plausible deniability for any associated violence.[1] A key element of stochastic terrorism is the use of media for propagation, where the person carrying out the violence may not have direct connection to any other users of violent rhetoric.[2][3][4]
...let him who has no sword sell his robe and buy one. Luke 22:35-36 NAV
"Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves." Matthew 10:16 NASV
September 12, 2025, 03:06 PM
Bytes
If this fuck stick is found guilty, I just want him gone. I don't need him to be tortured, give a painful death, just executed. Knowing he is gone will be fine with me.
September 12, 2025, 03:11 PM
1s1k
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Originally posted by lkdr1989: On a slightly related note:
Originally posted by Gustofer: He is on video. He (as I understand it) has confessed. I want no trial, I want no lawyers, I want no decades of appeals. I want this scummy little fucker marched out behind the jail, shot, and killed at sunrise tomorrow.
And then we move on.
As long as it’s televised or somehow live-streamed I’m good with that. We need to start putting in some deterrence so that people will see the consequences of their actions.
I agree. Public execution is the only way it becomes a deterrent. I would prefer a hanging in the town square.
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September 12, 2025, 03:23 PM
bronicabill
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Originally posted by darthfuster: <<snip>> Can we at least make him cry desperately for a few days first?
That would be my preference; make him suffer immensely, much like Charlie's family will suffer....
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September 12, 2025, 03:25 PM
WingedMedic
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Originally posted by wcb6092: Looks like he had great parents and a bright future and has thrown it all away. I really feel sorry for the parents.
The alleged killer confessed to his father Matt, who is a a 27-year veteran of the Washington County Sheriff's Department, sources told Daily Mail. His father then contacted authorities and secured his son before he could be taken into custody.
His mother, Amber Robinson, works for Intermountain Support Coordination Services, a company contracted by the state of Utah to help disabled people receive care.
Robinson was a student at Utah State University on a scholarship, insiders confirmed to Daily Mail.
More at link;
It amazes me how much BS "news agencies" post. His father is NOT a Washington County Deputy. Daily Mail's "sources" and editors are nothing more than dumbasses who do absolutely zero vetting before spewing crap out.
September 12, 2025, 03:27 PM
xd45man
Was at a HS Pep Rally today. The students all wore red white and blue. So many cool Tshirts on young folks. I saw several of the Trump with his fist in the air and the words “You missed”. These young folks were patriotic today. I think Charlie had a lot to do with it.
Originally posted by Prefontaine: 18-22 is not a child, and no, we are not talking about child labor. These college kids have too much time on their hands and they are getting into the shit. My point is take the entitlement away, quit paying for Suzy and Chad’s entitled lifestyle, and see how fast shit changes. Get a job, volunteer, go to work. Get off the phone and stupid apps. It’s just amazing to see the babying of adults. Well that is how we got here and why our country is so fucked up right now.
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September 12, 2025, 03:32 PM
Tn226
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Originally posted by mrprovy:
Stochastic Terrorism
Stochastic terrorism is a form of political violence[citation needed] instigated by hostile public rhetoric directed at a group or an individual. Unlike incitement to terrorism, stochastic terrorism is accomplished with indirect, vague or coded language, which grants the instigator plausible deniability for any associated violence.[1] A key element of stochastic terrorism is the use of media for propagation, where the person carrying out the violence may not have direct connection to any other users of violent rhetoric.[2][3][4]
I think that is most assuredly in use. Any brief segment of the msm ilk will clearly demonstrate that. Not surprising the wiki article frames it as strictly a “right wing” tool
September 12, 2025, 03:44 PM
mrprovy
If course they did, even though it CLEARLY applies to democrats
People have been killing people for a really long time and we have yet to figure out a way to stop it. I’m fairly sure the finger pointing for who is to blame hasn’t really changed much over time either, starting with the parents.
September 12, 2025, 03:48 PM
bronicabill
FWIW...
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September 12, 2025, 03:56 PM
Balzé Halzé
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Originally posted by chellim1:
I agree. Public execution is the only way it becomes a deterrent. I would prefer a hanging in the town square.
A hanging. Yes. Publicly.
I haven't contributed much to this thread because my heart is too dark at the moment. It's as black as pitch. I don't just want justice, I want vengeance. A reckoning. Righteous retribution. All I can think about more than anything right now are Charlie's two young children. I can't even find the words to articulate exactly how I feel.
So yes, kill that fucker. Publicly.
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Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan
September 12, 2025, 03:59 PM
YooperSigs
When these events unfold, I always wonder what the shooters thought process would be: 1- "People will pay attention to me"! 2- "I will be famous"! 3- "I will be a hero to some people" 4- "My life isnt worth living, so when I die, others will die with me". 5- "I am striking a blow for freedom or for some kind of oppressed people". 6- "I have been bullied, this is my revenge"! And the reality is his life is over. Soon to rot in prison awaiting a death sentence. His family is likely destroyed or at the very least seriously damaged. Kirks too! C'mon Robinson! Fill us in. What were you thinking? Maybe what we learn can help us spot other pathetic cowards like you.
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September 12, 2025, 04:00 PM
Aglifter
Balze, we had a relevant discussion in the men's group a few days ago, at church.
A retired pastor pointed out that "forgiveness is the only option."
Otherwise, the rage will consume.
That doesn't mean you don't protect yourself, it doesn't mean you don't seek justice, and it doesn't mean that the justice system cannot execute/punish.
The reason why the Lord says "Vengeance is Mine," is that He is the only one who can carry such a weight.
This is just like when yall have REAL problems you mention. I don’t ever have good words to say. Lots of emotions about this, mostly sadness at the present for his family.
I don't think he was an act. That was truly him and his passion. Which isn’t what I’d say about most famous people.
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September 12, 2025, 04:17 PM
TMats
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Originally posted by TMats: Couldn’t hear the questions asked at the press conference in Orem, but in light of the inscriptions on the rifle rounds, and the spent casing, I wanted someone to ask if the assassin had a connection to ANTIFA, even if just through social media. When you describe Charlie Kirk as a “fascist,” it’s logical to conclude that Robinson considered himself anti-fascist.
Reposting because it first landed at the bottom of the page in a fast moving thread. Just saw this post from Pamela Geller:
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Originally posted on FB by Pamela Geller: A second unfired casing read "Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Bella ciao, ciao, ciao."
"Bella Ciao" is a universal anthem of Antifa (from an old Italian anti-fascist song.)
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September 12, 2025, 04:39 PM
oddball
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
