Has anyone shot/bought one? Don't have any really use for it, but kinda thinking I want one...
June 22, 2022, 10:44 AM
maladat
I bought one from a small importer shortly before Beretta started importing them.
I’ve been so busy I haven’t actually shot it yet. One of these days.
They are absurdly expensive, but they’re also mechanically impressive with exceptional fit and finish. The cylinder lock up is perfect and it has the best trigger I have felt on a revolver (including old Smiths and Pythons).
There was a pretty big thread here when Beretta announced they would be importing them. As I recall, it was pretty much the mix you would expect of a few “I have one, they’re awesome” posts, some “cool, I want one” posts, and some “what kind of idiot would spend that on a revolver” posts.
June 22, 2022, 11:06 AM
HRK
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There was a pretty big thread here when Beretta announced they would be importing them. As I recall, it was pretty much the mix you would expect of a few “I have one, they’re awesome” posts, some “cool, I want one” posts, and some “what kind of idiot would spend that on a revolver” posts.
I have used one as a rental gun on the range for the past 2 years. It has outlasted the S&W and Ruger revolvers by a large margin. They are definitely built to survive on a diet of magnum loads. It is still to be seen whether the overall lifecycle costs are lower though since the initial cost prices are several times more.
Calgary Shooting Centre
June 22, 2022, 02:59 PM
pedropcola
Well you don’t have to be able to figure out how to put men on Mars to do the math on this one. You can buy a minimum of 3-4 GP100’s or L frames for the price of one Manhurin.
Surely you aren’t thinking that these French rental guns are 3 times stronger? That would be incredibly unlikely. I would take that bet every day that they aren’t.
I wonder if you have any actual numbers or data about these shot out Ruger’s and S&W’s? The Manhurins are 2 years old, so shot counts, and how the domestic revolvers died would be interesting.
I’m actually surprised this style of revolver is even being rented much. Only connoisseurs would rent a MR73 and most rentals are semi autos not revolvers. Canada may be the difference there. If revolvers, Ruger’s and Smiths are still being rented heavily there might be hope for humanity. Lol
June 22, 2022, 03:22 PM
RichardC
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Originally posted by pedropcola:
Well you don’t have to be able to figure out how ... blah, blah, blah ... Lol
Lol.This message has been edited. Last edited by: RichardC,
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June 22, 2022, 03:42 PM
RFSALES
I bought 2 from an importer 3 inch and a 5 1/4 inch with extended sight. Both have deep lustrous blue and great out of the box trigger pull. I sold 1 S&W Registered magnum to buy the 2 Manurhins.
June 22, 2022, 03:54 PM
RichardC
Nice ones, RFSALES!
How well does that rubber grip work?
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June 22, 2022, 04:18 PM
RFSALES
The Trausch grips are very good.They fit my hand and the ridge really control recoil. I have 2 other French guns, Ruger SP101 and Manurhin model 88 both have Trausch grips and feel really good.
June 22, 2022, 05:17 PM
RichardC
I'd sure like to try Rausch grips on my N Frame Smith & Wessons. Wish they'd make some.
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June 22, 2022, 05:35 PM
pedropcola
Blah blah blah. Lol. I guess stating that a 3000 dollar gun is the better value based on an internet gun rental tale seems reasonable to some. Nice guns, hyperbole is a bit much for me. Of course the overall lifecycle costs are HIGHER. You don’t buy a Ferrari because it’s lifecycle cost is lower. Gmafb.
June 22, 2022, 05:45 PM
RichardC
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Originally posted by pedropcola: Blah blah blah. Lol. I guess stating that a 3000 dollar gun is the better value based on an internet gun rental tale seems reasonable to some. Nice guns, hyperbole is a bit much for me. Of course the overall lifecycle costs are HIGHER. You don’t buy a Ferrari because it’s lifecycle cost is lower. Gmafb.
Back in October 2021, you promised to stay out of MR73 threads. And here you are, leaving your skidmarks across yet another one. Just can't stop yourself, can you.
Sorry, RFSALES, I'm not helping much, am I.
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June 22, 2022, 08:25 PM
maladat
I don’t know that the durability of the MR73 is as much higher than a S&W as it’s price is, but part of the story of the MR73 is that the French GIGN (basically the elite national police SWAT team) started out with Smith and Wesson revolvers and switched to the MR73 when their training regimen of 150-rounds-per-day of full magnum loads beat the Smiths to pieces.
I have no idea if it’s actually true (or how modern Smiths compare to those from the 70s), and even if it is, it’s totally irrelevant to at least 99.9% of shooters.
June 23, 2022, 01:31 AM
92fstech
As a revolver junkie, I'd absolutely love to try one of these. I'll never own one...I'm in the wrong income bracket for that, but the mechanics intrigue me and I'd love to experience what the fuss is all about. I also wish I had the time and income to shoot enough rounds through a Smith to blow it up, but as things stand I think my Smiths and Rugers are pretty safe at least for my foreseeable lifetime .
June 23, 2022, 08:32 AM
Aglifter
I think smiths lose timing around 50k. Kinda remember the revolver guys saying they had to have theirs rebuilt every 6 months to a year.
Colts go out at 25k, I think. I don’t remember meeting any Ruger shooters with a high annual round count.
June 23, 2022, 08:50 AM
pedropcola
Best Ruger I ever saw was from an old gunsmith, MGW I think, who back in the day when Python barrels were cheap screwed a Python barrel onto his Ruger Security whatever and made the coolest Ruger ever made. He called it some combination of Colt Python and Ruger. It was a catchy name that I can’t quite recall.
My understanding from him was that it was quite common back then.
June 23, 2022, 08:54 AM
Chuck Perry
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Originally posted by pedropcola: It was a catchy name that I can’t quite recall.
I've heard them referred to as Cougers. Something similar was done with Python barrels on S&W's. Those were called Smythons.
June 23, 2022, 10:36 AM
TSE
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Originally posted by pedropcola: Well you don’t have to be able to figure out how to put men on Mars to do the math on this one. You can buy a minimum of 3-4 GP100’s or L frames for the price of one Manhurin.
Surely you aren’t thinking that these French rental guns are 3 times stronger? That would be incredibly unlikely. I would take that bet every day that they aren’t.
I wonder if you have any actual numbers or data about these shot out Ruger’s and S&W’s? The Manhurins are 2 years old, so shot counts, and how the domestic revolvers died would be interesting.
I’m actually surprised this style of revolver is even being rented much. Only connoisseurs would rent a MR73 and most rentals are semi autos not revolvers. Canada may be the difference there. If revolvers, Ruger’s and Smiths are still being rented heavily there might be hope for humanity. Lol
We were getting MR73 revolvers for just over 2x the cost of the S&W 686 or Ruger GP100. Most of the S&W revolvers lasted only 2 years on the rental rack. Once the hammer stud broke off the frame they were considered beyond economical repair. In general the Ruger revolvers faired better, but over the last 6 or so years we have a large number of barrels split at the forcing cone. Ruger would cover replacement but it would take the better part of a year to get done. I am waiting to see how long the MR73 operates without breaking. It might end up costing less that the S&W in the long run.
Calgary Shooting Centre
June 23, 2022, 08:20 PM
Fredward
Nothing to argue about here. If you like it and can afford it, buy it. If not, don't. Bitching about cost and arguing about durability are irrelevant.
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