Although the reporters state that he was leaving, the video gives me the impression he was just going back to threaten those at the front of the store again. He turned his back on everyone several times. One time too many.

^^^ Yup, the scumbag wasn't leaving. He was still going around point gun at folks. Absolutely justified shoot.

If I were the lawyer* for the shooter who was charged or sued, the defense seems obvious to me.

How do we know that he was leaving and had stopped his threatening behavior? Merely because he was walking away from the shooter when shot doesn’t prove anything. He walked around in a random pattern and could have turned around at any time or continued circling around, and what if he’d then seen the victim holding a gun. It would be reasonable to assume that he was posing a deadly threat to not only everyone else in the establishment, but directly to the shooter. Even in other parts of the country it’s not always necessary to come under fire or other direct assault to be justified in defending oneself.

That of course is just my take on the situation and there’s no guarantee that a jury would always reach the correct verdict. If the BG was already out the door and running away, then it would be claimed that the threat he posed had entered, but while he was still inside waving the gun around—?

* (I’m not an attorney and not claiming to be.)

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Originally posted by synthplayer:
Why do they need to question anyone? The video says it all.

To congratulate him.

My IDPA club used to go for dinner after our weekly match. We were all at our usual place, about six or seven of us, armed to the teeth, as you would expect. Two armed robbers decided to rob the take-out pizza joint two doors down from the place we were on one of those nights. They don't know how lucky they were.

He wasn't leavin'...

What would they say in the Armed Robber's defense otherwise: He had already pointed his gun in a threatening manner at each person and every person present in the Ranchito Taqueria, so they ALL shoulda known he wouldn't hurt nobody! He was heading towards the door to go home to his mama! And he was just turnin' his life around! He dindu nuffin!

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Originally posted by sig2392:
This may be why

https://fox5sandiego.com/news/...reak-into-his-truck/



https://www.ktre.com/story/373...-lawsuit-seeking-1m/

No good deed goes unpunished.

Neither of those are anything like this case. In the Lufkin one, the robber shot a customer. The other one was in California.

Well I hope the guy got his carne asada burrito order-to-go before he left the place.

And hopefully the patrons who left didn’t use a credit card so it’ll be much tougher to identify them.

Did he retrieve his "Bad Motherfucker" wallet before he left?

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The shooter collected the stolen money from the robber and returned it to the other patrons, police said.

Then the rest of the people in the restaurant left the scene before the police arrived.

Maybe it's like around here where the response time is like 30 minutes. Can't wait around forever.

If he had time to return everyone's shit, then he was there for at least a little while. It's not like he ran out of there.

Not sure about Texas, but in some places there just aren't any cops on duty at night.

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Originally posted by tsmccull:
And hopefully the patrons who left didn’t use a credit card so it’ll be much tougher to identify them.

At a taqueria in Houston? It's all cash. Lol.

After shooting the guy, he goes and grabs the cash from the robbery out of the dead guys hands and gives it back to the victims.
Pretty classy in my book.

Wondering what caliber it was...


Bullet holes by kpkina, on Flickr

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Originally posted by kkina:
Wondering what caliber it was...

Dual. .22LR and .45 ACP.

Fuck with a man's tacos and you're asking for it.

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Originally posted by Gustofer:
Fuck with a man's tacos and you're asking for it.

Ha ha LOL… Reminds me one of the most true things David Chappelle ever said…

In telling his story and what happened at Comedy Central, he starts early on when he goes to New York City and gets suckered by a three card monte game.

Long story short, big dude has little Dave literally by the throat (Dave thinking he’s gonna die), and the guy sees the fear and shows him mercy.

Explains to little Dave that “You never get between a man and his meal. Ever.”

Dave learned in two minutes, what it sometimes takes kids running the street many years to learn. Some people never learn this lesson.

The perp still had the gun out and was waving it around. He was not out of the store. The threat was still in play. The defender never acted to follow the perp. In fact he never got out of his seat.

Good shoot.

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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
But...

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However, as [the suspect] was leaving, one of those customers shot [him].

Arguably, at this point, the suspect was no longer a threat. So, in Michigan, at least, the guy who shot him could be on shaky legal ground.

I'm gonna go with "hope they can't identify him."

Why does the video remind me of this movie scene?

"you forgot your fortune cookie"
"it says 'you're shit out of luck'"

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Originally posted by tatortodd:

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Originally posted by synthplayer:
Why do they need to question anyone? The video says it all.

To keep accurate stats, they have find out if he drove a GM or Ford truck.

Thinking it would be a 1978 Ford F-350.

This cat got ventilated at close range and from behind, and he had it coming. Judging by the bullet holes in the glass of the entrance, it looks like the shooter kept on the trigger as our hapless would-be robber left this existence.