Just so they don't make a four door Mustang.

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Originally posted by craigcpa:
Just so they don't make a four door Mustang.

Oohhh, the new sporty "Palomino" sedan set to compete with other sport-sedans.

rounded off bubble cars , that look like 23 other rounded off bubble cars ,
another reason to appreciate that I am 4/5ths
out of here

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Chevy and Dodge will love not having to compete against Ford for the LEO sedan market.

No one is buying the Taurus for fleet use. the cost difference between the Utility and sedan is down to a few dollars unlike years ago. Same running gear and a lot more utility.


The old Panther Crown Vic sucked. Couldn't get out of it's own way short of a three mile straight, terrible in the snow and not all that well suited for the needs of today's equipment. The features built into the new sedan and utility make it a much better car and faster with better gas millage.

Either way, ford planned on dumping the present Ex/Taurus platform in 2020 years ago.

I have a 2009 Sable(Taurus) that has 115,000 mi.
We put a new battery in after 6 or 7 years and new tires on.

I went to change the front brakes at 80K mi, and there was 75% of the pads left.
I did change the rear pads but they were only 50% gone, but I had already bought the pads.

Other than that, no problems.
We have a month old Explorer Sport and love it.

Of course we have a Tbird that has been no problems.
My F250 iS 2010 that did have the AC/heater diverter motor go bad.

Other than that, nothing, the battery is still original in that. My son and sister both have new Fusions that they just love.

I hate to see the Taurus and Fusion go away, I was planning on getting a new Taurus in a couple years to replace our Sable.

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Originally posted by rscalzo:

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Chevy and Dodge will love not having to compete against Ford for the LEO sedan market.

No one is buying the Taurus for fleet use. the cost difference between the Utility and sedan is down to a few dollars unlike years ago. Same running gear and a lot more utility.


The old Panther Crown Vic sucked. Couldn't get out of it's own way short of a three mile straight, terrible in the snow and not all that well suited for the needs of today's equipment. The features built into the new sedan and utility make it a much better car and faster with better gas millage.

Either way, ford planned on dumping the present Ex/Taurus platform in 2020 years ago.

The old Vic may have been a roaring couch on iceskates to drive but agencies would have kept buying them because they dont look around past "what works". I do believe axing the Vic was one of the dumbest automotive moves I recall. Not that I miss it mind you.

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Originally posted by bendable:
rounded off bubble cars , that look like 23 other rounded off bubble cars ,
another reason to appreciate that I am 4/5ths
out of here

Wait a minute.....The AMC Pacer is making a comeback??

What will be left to compare with cruising in a Crown Vic. I like the big road cars. I used to drive a Chrysler 300C (1957) and a Continental Mark II

Times change and so do tastes. Ford is just going along with the times. They won’t regret it and they’ll be more profitable for it.

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Originally posted by rscalzo:

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Chevy and Dodge will love not having to compete against Ford for the LEO sedan market.

No one is buying the Taurus for fleet use. the cost difference between the Utility and sedan is down to a few dollars unlike years ago. Same running gear and a lot more utility.


The old Panther Crown Vic sucked. Couldn't get out of it's own way short of a three mile straight, terrible in the snow and not all that well suited for the needs of today's equipment. The features built into the new sedan and utility make it a much better car and faster with better gas millage.

Either way, ford planned on dumping the present Ex/Taurus platform in 2020 years ago.

Everyone I know driving the new Exploder Interceptor loves it; everyone running the sedan wishes they had the SUV. So much more room, and no real trade off in performance.

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Originally posted by rockchalk06:
Killing the Taurus was about as smart as killing off the Crown Vic. Chevy and Dodge will love not having to compete against Ford for the LEO sedan market.

Porsche sold more units in the US than Ford sold police cars. At this point LEO vehicles are almost a botique market and I'll bet the profitis pretty slim as well.

Nothing drove like the cars from the panther platform. A ten year old Grand Marquis still rides better than any brand new Honda or Toyota but no one bought them anymore. The demographic is dying off. Can’t make cars that don’t sell.

VW is killing off the bug. Auto manufacturers do this from time to time. Europe will probably continue to have some sort of Ford hot hatchback with a turbo that they will eventually water down and import to the US by its second or third gen.

Ford cars are not terrible. We rented a focus in Colorado that was a decent little vehicle. If the cars are just not selling eventually you have to stop and go back to the drawing board.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:

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Originally posted by rscalzo:

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Chevy and Dodge will love not having to compete against Ford for the LEO sedan market.

No one is buying the Taurus for fleet use. the cost difference between the Utility and sedan is down to a few dollars unlike years ago. Same running gear and a lot more utility.


The old Panther Crown Vic sucked. Couldn't get out of it's own way short of a three mile straight, terrible in the snow and not all that well suited for the needs of today's equipment. The features built into the new sedan and utility make it a much better car and faster with better gas millage.

Either way, ford planned on dumping the present Ex/Taurus platform in 2020 years ago.

Everyone I know driving the new Exploder Interceptor loves it; everyone running the sedan wishes they had the SUV. So much more room, and no real trade off in performance.

Add me to your list. I’ve driven Crown Vic’s, Impalas, Chargers, Caprices, and who knows what else. I never thought I’d like something more than a Crown Vic.

The Ford Explorer police SUV is hands down the best police vehicle I’ve ever used. By leaps and bounds. Never would have guessed I’d say that 5 years ago.

Good. The worst car I have ever had in police service was the Taurus. What a piece of junk. We stopped buying them after a couple of years. I hated that car. It was in the shop constantly. We quit buying them after a couple of years because of all the problems.

The bean counters say the Explorer is the lowest cost maint wise of all of them out to 100k.

Manufacturers build what people buy.

People are buying SUV/trucks.

My garage has two suv’s and a Mustang.

Question for Sigforum members. What’s in your garage? Car or SUV/Truck?

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Originally posted by rscalzo:

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Chevy and Dodge will love not having to compete against Ford for the LEO sedan market.

No one is buying the Taurus for fleet use. the cost difference between the Utility and sedan is down to a few dollars unlike years ago. Same running gear and a lot more utility.


The old Panther Crown Vic sucked. Couldn't get out of it's own way short of a three mile straight, terrible in the snow and not all that well suited for the needs of today's equipment. The features built into the new sedan and utility make it a much better car and faster with better gas millage.

Either way, ford planned on dumping the present Ex/Taurus platform in 2020 years ago.

3 of the largest LEO agencies in my state have a ton of them in their fleet along with the SUV's.

The Ford Utility outsells the sedan in agencies by a wide margin. the price difference is only a few dollars.

The sales are six to one.

2017 - Utility - 33,000
Sedan - 7,000

2018 numbers dropped even lower for the sedan.

http://carsalesbase.com/us-car...ice-interceptor-suv/

Our price for a Utility is 25,525. The sedan in FWD is 21,300. they don't even offer the AWD under the state contract.

There will always be a market for a sedan. the admins like them. But them can get away with a standard street version. We started using the older model Escapes years ago.

If I could only own a single vehicle, it would be a truck hands down. They are good enough now that they don't really give up much performance or comfort wise to a car, and their level of utility is just so much higher.