So, I got some sort of tax rebate card (visa debit) in the mail. I thought it was some sort of scam. But apparently it's real -- money from the state because of high gas prices or inflation or something. Seems like it'll be about $500-750.

So now I'm wondering who gets it, how much is each person getting and how much of my taxes is going into it. This seems like we're paying too much in taxes. Or we're going to be paying more in taxes. Either way, we're paying for it and just getting some money back. I'd rather they just cut the tax rates.

Is this common across the country? Just leftist regions?

Yep, that would be the Middle Class Tax Refund. I thought it was a scam as well, but something told me to check it out. It's legit. I already used mine. Mine for a single was $350.

It's real. I do my taxes online with direct deposit, so that money got deposited in my bank sometime early October.

Cool. Okay, I'll activate the card. I'd love to buy a g19 or a something black "with the thing that goes up" - something that compels the left to ask why I need something like that. Something irksome to the state

But realistically, I think my wife will just use it all.

I wonder if it's just Kalifornistan or are other states following suit?

Is that tax rebate payment taxable???? would not it be considered income requireing taxes to be paid??? Is this for Commiefornia only.......................................... drill sgt.

^Tax-exempt for state, may be taxable at the Fed level.

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^Tax-exempt for state, may be taxable at the Fed level.

Thanks. Good to know.

Not in Ohio.

Here's a link bro...

California Gas Rebate — Here's What You Need to Know

California is sending money directly to millions of residents to help with rising costs and high gas prices.

The payments, which started going out October 7, range from $200 to $1,050, depending on income and other factors. About 18 million payments will be distributed over the next few months, benefiting up to 23 million Californians. The cash payouts are part of a June budget deal.

We’ve already answered the basics, including who is eligible for the payments, when they are getting sent out, how people will receive them, and how much you can expect to receive.

But readers responded with more questions via email and social media. We also took cues from questions people searched for a lot online. We’ve answered some of those questions here, and will be adding more questions and answers to this page over the coming days.

Does it matter how many cars I have, or whether I have an electric vehicle?

No. Whether or not you’re eligible for this payment — or how much you will get — has nothing to do with whether you own a car, how many cars you own, or what kind of car you own.

The reason people might be confused is that back in March, Gov. Gavin Newsom proposed sending payments to Californians based on how many cars they own. But that wasn’t part of the final deal.

Eligibility is based on having submitted a complete 2020 tax return by Oct. 15, 2021, as well as other factors including income and residency.

Are the 'gas rebates' the same as the 'inflation relief' payments?
Basically, yes.

The idea of financial relief for high gas prices was floated by Newsom in March. As the proposal developed, it was sometimes referred to as a gas rebate or refund, and sometimes referred to as an inflation relief payment. The official name it ultimately got was the Middle Class Tax Refund. In most cases, those terms are all referring to payments that started going out in October to offset the high price of gas and other goods.

One wrinkle: In the wake of a recent uptick in the price of California gas, Newsom proposed a new tax on oil companies in late September and called for a special legislative session in December to discuss the idea. His proposal is to turn the funds generated from that tax into a refund or rebate for people affected by high gas prices, so that’s another gas rebate you might hear about, but it hasn’t happened yet.

Are these payments taxable?

The payments won’t be taxable for California state income tax purposes, says Franchise Tax Board spokesperson Catalina Martinez. Martinez said the board would be issuing 1099-MISC forms to people receiving payments of more than $600.

Whether the federal government will tax these payments is less clear. “That’s an issue where individuals should check with your local tax preparer,” said H.D. Palmer, spokesperson for California’s Department of Finance.

Why can't you file something now to get the payment if you didn't file a 2020 tax return?

Some people earn little enough income that they aren’t required to file taxes. That includes some seniors and disabled people, as well as some people with very low incomes. Unfortunately, if you didn’t file a 2020 tax return by the deadline, you aren’t eligible for this payment.

You can’t file anything retroactively to receive the payment.

If the state allowed people to file amended tax returns, for example, that would have taken more time — both for people to file, and for the state to process — and would have opened up “concerns regarding potential fraud,” said Palmer of the Department of Finance.

Basing the payments on previously submitted returns, and documentation that has “already been processed and validated by the [Franchise Tax Board] significantly eliminates the possibility of fraud,” Palmer said.

Why is your 2020 tax return important? Why not 2021?

There are two main reasons why the 2020 tax return was chosen, Palmer said. One is that the 2020 tax filing is completely done, whereas tax filing and processing for 2021 is ongoing. (The extension deadline for 2021 tax returns was October 17).

The other reason, Palmer said, is that the tax board “received roughly half a million more low-income tax returns than usual in 2020, since more households filed tax returns to take advantage of pandemic-related assistance.” So, by using the 2020 return, California will be able to reach several hundred thousand more people with these payments, according to Palmer.

What happens if you were married when you filed your 2020 tax return and filed it jointly, but have since gotten divorced?

Your tax return for 2020 is important for these payments — without one, you aren’t eligible. Plus, the adjusted gross income reported on your 2020 return will factor into how much money you get. The payments are being sent out either as direct deposits or debit cards.

If you were part of a couple that filed a 2020 tax return jointly, but have since separated or gotten divorced, you will still be issued one debit card jointly with your former spouse or partner, with both names on it, said Martinez. That card would be sent to the most recent address the tax board has on file for the first person named on the 2020 return.

If your address has changed since you last filed California taxes, you can update your address through MyFTB or by dialing (800) 542-9332, according to Martinez.

Same goes for direct deposit: If you filed a 2020 tax return with a partner or spouse you’ve since separated from, the deposit will go to the bank account of the first person named on the 2020 tax return, Martinez said.

In this situation the formerly coupled taxpayers “should work together to ensure proper handling of the (Middle Class Tax Refund) payment,” said Martinez in a statement.

Are you eligible?

To be eligible, you need to have filed a 2020 California tax return by Oct. 15, 2021. There’s an exception for people who did not file by the October deadline because they were waiting on an individual taxpayer identification number (so long as they filed by Feb. 15, 2022).

People who didn’t file taxes for 2020, including some seniors and disabled people, will be left out.

People who can be claimed as dependents for tax purposes won’t get their own payments.

The payments also won’t go to people who are married or in domestic partnerships who have an adjusted gross income over $500,000. Same goes for many individuals who have adjusted gross incomes over $250,000.

You also had to be a California resident for at least six months of 2020, and be a resident when your payment is issued.

Undocumented Californians with a valid taxpayer number or Social Security number, who filed complete 2020 tax returns and meet all the eligibility requirements, can receive the payments.

You don’t need to send any additional forms or fill out any application to get the payment.

How will you get the payment?

People who are eligible for the payment will get it either via a direct deposit to their bank account or by mailed debit card, according to the tax board. Generally, people who filed their 2020 tax return online and received their state tax refund via direct deposit will get a direct deposit. Most other people who are eligible will get debit cards in the mail. The envelope will be clearly marked with the phrase “Middle Class Tax Refund.”

When will you get the payment?

The first round of payments will go to people who received one of the two Golden State stimulus payments from 2021 and are eligible for a direct deposit. The first round of payments are expected to go out between October 7 and October 25.

The rest of the direct deposits are expected to go out between October 28 and November 14. The tax board expects 90% of direct deposits to be sent out in October, according to its website.

Debit cards for people who got one of the Golden State stimulus payments are expected to be mailed out between October 25 and December 10. All of the remaining debit cards are expected to be mailed by January 15.

Why can't they all be sent out at once?

“There are constraints on the number of direct deposits and mailed debit cards that can be issued weekly,” Franchise Tax Board spokesperson Andrew LePage told CalMatters. “Logistically it takes time to deliver approximately 18 million payments to Californians effectively and accurately, protecting both taxpayers and California.”

How much will you get?

The Franchise Tax Board has information, as well as a customer help line, which can be reached by dialing (800) 542-9332. The help line has assistance in English, Spanish, Mandarin, Hindi, Vietnamese, Korean and Punjabi. The board says other languages may be supported by request. You can also access the FTB's Middle Class Tax Refund Estimator.

Cool. Thanks!

BTW, it took me awhile to figure out that they don't like caller id blocking when you call to activate.

Are reparations for Black families still on the table?? Newsom is really a piece of work.

dunno. that's another topic. but i wonder why i would be subject to any reparation obligations. and why any public funds that should be universally beneficial would be allocated to a group to which i don't belong and have no obligations toward.

Update on the Slavery reparations. Gutfeld show covered it. Basically there are so many restrictions on who might qualify it becomes a joke. Such things as proving 18 century ancestry. Hotep Jesus who is black made fun of the entire thing. He said the bill should be entitled, "Act like you are friends with Negroes." He said it has limited chance of seeing the light of day.

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Update on the Slavery reparations. Gutfeld show covered it. Basically there are so many restrictions on who might qualify it becomes a joke. Such things as proving 18 century ancestry. Hotep Jesus who is black made fun of the entire thing. He said the bill should be entitled, "Act like you are friends with Negroes." He said it has limited chance of seeing the light of day.

Good. People who never owned slaves paying reparations to people who were never slaves is absurd.

If they want reparations, they should go to the people who made them slaves, not customers of the slavers.

Just announced, the Fed will not be taxing your refund.