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The nice thing about NOT living in California, is that you have ample opportunity to learn from their mistakes. | |||
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Id go so far as to say, only half-Power 5 schools could survive on their own, the vast majority of schools need to dip into their general fund on an annual basis to cover expenses from the athletic department. The other fantasy, is the NFL actually commits to a minor league. If schools start to shuck-off athletics, citing expenses, the NFL and other pro leagues may in fact start supplementing a minor league. Given the declining participation in HS football, pro football owners are going to have to take a hard look and figure out what they want their future to look like as it pertains to attracting and developing talent for their brand of entertainment.This message has been edited. Last edited by: corsair, | |||
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The NCAA is a totally corrupt being that needs to be exposed for the treatment and manipulation of athletes for big monetary gain. Whether the California law does it or it is something else, the earlier that happens the better. I typically have no use for CA laws and would not live there if someone paid me. Large money makers for the ncaa like unc basketball, southeastern conference football, Notre Dame football skate around rules without punishment. However they (ncaa) are perfectly willing to punish a small school for small, petty, negligible offenses within an inch of their existence. All in the name of making an example of someone. I hope that it happens soon. Big money business that is so corrupt it doesn’t deserve to continue to exist. Sports players graduate with a degree but can’t read above 4th - 5th grade level. If they don’t make it to professional league levels, they have very little chance to be successful in life. It’s a total sham and needs to be blown up for a fresh start. | |||
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The real revenue is in TV, right? Are there enough viewers in CA who will also watch this to support the revenue/advertiser model? I think not. You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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While they certainly have a large top-line revenue, help me find the corruption line items in their financials? NCAA Financials You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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Athletes get support from the university that neither the music nor the math majors receive. They are by far the most supported students at school, and everyone else there will do without long before the athletes. The extent to which universities cater to their student athletes is, for institutions whose primary focus should be academic, both alarming and ridiculous. Most of the schools in question would get rid of the math department before the football program if they had to choose. ____________________________________________________________ Georgeair: "...looking around my house this morning, it's not easily defended for long by two people in the event of real anarchy. The entryways might be slick for the latecomers though...." | |||
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This is all about the feckless Cali AHole Governor making political capital. He could care less about student athletes. The NCAA will have no other option but to exclude Cali schools from competition which will only invite legal discourse. ______________________________________________ Life is short. It’s shorter with the wrong gun… | |||
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You're referring to the well known blue-blood programs, who's players and programs exist in an obscene world of scholastic catering and segregated luxury from the general student body. Where the head football and/or basketball coach is the highest paid state employee and half the assistant coaches are earning close to seven figures. Most school aren't like what is depicted by those schools, while student-athletes do get medical and academic support, that infrastructure blows like the wind depending on funding & budget. Those student-athletes are ground down to a nub, if it isn't an over bearing coach or, compliance administrator, it's an indifferent medical staff or, a confrontational dean. At some point, the keeping up with the Jones' environment in college athletics has to break. Perhaps this is the start. | |||
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It will never show in their financials. It’s all about the exploitation of 18 - 21 year olds for huge tv contact $$$$. The blue blood universities will not rat each other out because they are all complicit in the scheme by sharing the revenue stream. | |||
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I’m one of these who believe student athletes, on scholarship, are already being paid in the form of education, stipends, the best healthcare money can buy, personal trainers and nutritionists, tutors, housing, clothing, travel money for families, etc. I would venture to guess that any athlete who can market himself for money is on full scholarship and not a walk-on, etc. With increasing costs of education, and the debts of college graduates, I believe a free education, plus all of the other benefits these athletes receive, is more than fair compensation. Regardless of which particular school, if you’ve put, or are putting a kid, or kids, through college, it ain’t cheap or easy. If college players are paid, then they should be responsible for ALL of the other costs incurred while going to school. None of these athletes are being forced into doing what they do. It will certainly be interesting to watch it all play out over the next few years. If college athletes begin to make money, I wonder if I will begin to lose interest in college football. I’m not a professional sports fan. I’ve always liked to believe that college athletes are playing for the love of the game. Of course, they all want to make it to the next level. | |||
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| Help! Help! I'm being repressed!  |
I'm fine with the kids making a little money on the side. What chaps my ass is some QB or RB is going to get a big payday, but the guys protecting his ass, the no name offensive line guys, aren't going to get shit. Sponsorships should be paid into a general fund and split up between the team. No individual contracts. If the NCAA wanted to get ahead of this, they would set aside a percentage of profits every year and then pay ALL student athletes a stipend. Doesn't matter if you play football or table tennis, you get the same amount. | |||
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| Master of one hand pistol shooting  |
Sounds rather capitalistic coming from the commies. SIGnature NRA Benefactor CMP Pistol Distinguished | |||
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=================================== But think of the TAX REVENUES !  Sure, they might have to fix the tax codes a little, but "fixing things" ......that is standard operating procedure for the socialists / commies of California. *********************** * Diligentia Vis Celeritis * *********************** "Thus those skilled in war subdue the enemy's army without battle .... They conquer by strategy." - Sun Tsu - The Art of War "Fast is Fine, but Accuracy is Everything" - Wyatt Earp | |||
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I was going to post that if your the top 10 players on a team you will get endorsements, what about the kids that aren't that good who won't get the money? And if you do get endorsements no scholarships etc should be given.. | |||
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^^^^^^ This. Forbes had an article a while back that estimated the value of a sporting scholarship at between 50k and 125k annually. Triple As best players make around 120k. __________________________ | |||
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It's times like this that remind me of why I've come to detest organized sports. Didn't used to  "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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| A teetotaling beer aficionado  |
I see this as a non issue that has the potential to backfire. How many truly gifted college athletes (Heisman candidates or shoe in first round picks in the pro draft etc) are there on any given team that would get a huge benefit from monetizing their identity? Very few I think. Maybe the average player might get his/her family and friends to buy a jersey or two but probably not enough to cover the cost to design, manufacturer, market and distribute. Let them have it, but don't talk to me about the colleges actually paying players. That's a completely different deal. Men fight for liberty and win it with hard knocks. Their children, brought up easy, let it slip away again, poor fools. And their grandchildren are once more slaves. -D.H. Lawrence | |||
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I've never been for paying college athletes, but I've long thought it made no sense that they can't have endorsement deals. Kids can work in college, why can't these kids work as spokes people for products? It's none of my business what they do for work outside of school. | |||
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Why does the NCAA care what any state's law is? Universities voluntarily join the NCAA and agree to follow the rules, why does it matter what the state law is? If the NCAA says that athletes can't make money, then they can't make money and still be in the NCAA regardless of what the state law says.
Because the schools with big time boosters/alumni would pay huge endorsement deals and smaller schools or schools without big dollar alumni would never be able to compete. It would be like the NFL, but with no salary cap - the richest owners would dominate the league because all of the best players would go where they could make the most money. “Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” - John Adams | |||
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HMMMM. I think ol' Gavin is trying to add more taxpayers to the whackyland governmet tax and spend operation. Upon further thought, maybe it would be great to allow all these young democrats to get paid and HAVE TO NOW PAY INCOME TAXES. Yeah, go ahead, California, go ahead. I'm laughing now. Tax'em and spend, er uh, I mean waste the money. Go ahead. | |||
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