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NC considering Firearms Class elective for High School

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April 10, 2017, 04:32 PM
mikeyspizza
NC considering Firearms Class elective for High School
"North Carolina lawmakers are considering a bill that would allow a comprehensive firearms course to be taught in high schools.

Hickory Rep. Jay Adams filed the bill in Raleigh last week.

House Bill 612 would authorize local boards of education to offer the elective course. The course would be developed by the State Board of Education.

The firearm education course would incorporate history, math and science related to guns, as well as firearm safety. The course would not allow live ammunition.

Eyewitness News anchor Liz Foster is looking into the proposed course and hearing reaction from parents."
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Argument for: Why not teach firearm safety and proper use at a young age?
Argument against: Let's focus on the 3 R's.

My view: If it's an elective, the individual can choose.
April 10, 2017, 04:40 PM
Opus Dei
This seems like a fun class and I know many will learn better via applied science rather than conventional methods. I would split the difference and offer this in JHS.
April 10, 2017, 05:09 PM
jbcummings
This makes good sense. Which probably means there's not a chance. I'd have the state police/troopers provide criteria for the course. Let the state education department put it together, but have LE provide the layout and material. Which also means graduates would know something about state law to boot.


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April 10, 2017, 08:57 PM
ZSMICHAEL
Hunter safety used to be an elective course in some of the high schools here not too long ago. The game warden taught it and the kids learned a lot about both firearms and wildlife. With our current Governor a bill supporting a required firearms class would probably pass.
April 10, 2017, 09:03 PM
nhtagmember
quote:
Originally posted by mikeyspizza:


Argument for: Why not teach firearm safety and proper use at a young age?
Argument against: Let's focus on the 3 R's.

My view: If it's an elective, the individual can choose.


one has to suspect how successful they've been with the 3 R's....



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April 10, 2017, 09:10 PM
Tommydogg
I went to school in NC. It was either the ninth or 10th grade, we had a hunter safety course as part of heath and PE.


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April 11, 2017, 09:55 AM
Expert308
Nice idea. I wonder how it would be able to coexist with the zero-tolerance policies so many school districts have nowadays. Or maybe it would overrule that nonsense. I went to JHS and HS in Montana and Idaho in the `70's and they never had anything like this. Hunter Ed was a different program run by the state DFW, I must have been about 14-ish when I took it but my Dad had been teaching us shooting and safety since we were maybe 6 or 7.
April 11, 2017, 10:18 AM
airsoft guy
Sounds good to me.

Like it or not (I reckon most here would fall into that first category), guns are a thing that exist in this country, there are millions of them, locked up in safes, tucked into sock drawers, hanging over fireplaces, propped up next to the kitchen door, bouncing around behind the seat of pickups, and they're not going anywhere. Even if you're not a gun person, there's a chance you're going to encounter one at some point in your life, and knowing how to safely handle it could really come in handy. Not to mention taking all the mystery out of them for dumbass kids when they go riffling through a relatives cabinets for porn and liquor, and instead find a .38.



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April 11, 2017, 12:43 PM
davar
quote:
Originally posted by Tommydogg:
I went to school in NC. It was either the ninth or 10th grade, we had a hunter safety course as part of heath and PE.


Va. used to offer a Hunter Ed course also. Both my daughters took it and were given certificates.
I have taught the course for over twenty years as a volunteer for V D G I F.
April 11, 2017, 05:28 PM
SIG 229R
Livrd in N C all my life. I think it is a dandy idea but, only if taught by qualified instructors.


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April 11, 2017, 06:01 PM
rat2306
Just wondering out loud; how far is Hickory from Madison? If not too far away, and the class is done right maybe it could be a vo-tech type environment where guys could qualify for/get jobs at Remington...?
April 11, 2017, 09:41 PM
flashguy
My Detroit, Michigan high school in the 1950s had its own underground firing range, principally used for training the Junior AROTC students. I don't think we had any non-ROTC firearms training, though. The range may also have been used by area Scouts--I don't know.

In 2005 (50th reunion) the range was still there, but unused by anyone. A few years later the entire facility was razed and a new school build in its place. I suspect the range disappeared as a result.

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April 11, 2017, 11:43 PM
wishfull thinker
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Not to mention taking all the mystery out of them for dumbass kids when they go riffling through a relatives cabinets for porn and liquor, and instead find a .38


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April 12, 2017, 07:58 AM
mikeyspizza
Smithfield-Selma High School, about 20 miles from Raleigh, has a shooting range, but they only shoot pellet rifles.

April 21, 2016 - Indoor Shooting Range Opens to Students in North Carolina High School

https://www.gunsamerica.com/bl...arolina-high-school/
April 12, 2017, 02:23 PM
Rightwire
Are they going to use live teachers with functional brains?




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April 12, 2017, 03:36 PM
slosig
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Originally posted by Rightwire:
Are they going to use live teachers with functional brains?

Is that legal in public schools anymore?