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You answered your own question, God, family, country. Do you really think God wants you to harbor your murderer son against the law? I think not. | |||
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Still finding my way |
You said it better than I could have. As I said earlier, no matter the crime I would never be such a sniveling simp to the state as to rat on my own blood. They come before ALL others in this world. This is not to say that I'd agree or condone their actions. Just that I don't accept that the state has any authority to hand out punishments or make judgements against any of us. That is for the ones who were wronged. | |||
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| Ammoholic |
One thing I have noticed recently is that the proliferation of "malum prohibitum" laws that airsoft guy described do nothing to promote respect for the law. Failure to enforce the others doesn't help either. Sigh... | |||
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A Grateful American |
I am of the mind that is it is "minor" transgressions which can be fully and properly satisfied between parties, (the shoplifting, vandalism etc.) their is no need to bring "the law" into it. The "law" should be for such times as the matter not being able to be satisfied between parties. Often the "damage" from the "cure" is worse than handling it between the child and the party, and the parent/adult being the "righteous mediator". None of this is "skirting" the law. And "a man's gotta know his limitations" applies. If it is beyond one's ability to make right the wrong and make whole the injured party, then taking it to the "authorities" is the correct thing to do. Bottom line. Protecting my own blood, over someone who has been unjustly transgressed, is wrong on premise. (but there are certainly exceptions, and there is no "one size fits all" position) "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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Nope. The more I have seen of the American Judicial system, the less I am inclined to go anywhere near it. Thirty years ago, I would have had a different answer. | |||
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| Smarter than the average bear |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by airsoft guy: … Oh, some grabber wine mommy has an aching chest pussy? That's not quite damage enough for me to give a shit. … QUOTE] Is this a series of typos or a result of autocorrect, or am I just that far out of current culture? What the hell is a “grabber wine mommy” or a “aching chest pussy”? | |||
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| As Extraordinary as Everyone Else  |
This is my feelings as well. Self confession time to prove my point. My Dad died when I was 12 and my teen years were rough. My Mom was struggling to raise 4 kids and did a fantastic job but my teenage years were touch and go. As an example when I was 15 I wanted to go to a party in Derry NH where my favorite local band was playing ( you may have heard of them…Aerosmith). Anyway, my Mom said no and we had a huge blowout. I ended up “borrowing” the family station wagon. Long story short. I was not found driving, thank God, but my Mom dragged me down to the Chief of Police’s office where he read me the riot act and actually scarred the shit out of me. I never pulled that shit again. So yes, kids need to be reported and maybe they will actually learn how close they came to really getting into trouble… ------------------ Eddie Our Founding Fathers were men who understood that the right thing is not necessarily the written thing. -kkina | |||
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| Happiness is Vectored Thrust  |
I hope you're never seated on a jury for a murder trial. You'd never vote guilty if this is your take on things. Hey, are you one of those Sovereign Citizens??? Icarus flew too close to the sun, but at least he flew. | |||
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delicately calloused |
When one of the Jr DFs stole a toy from the grocery store at age 6, I made him take it back and confess and hand it to the store manager. Except for occasionally raiding my ammo cans, he has never stolen since. When Jr DF #1 developed a vandalism habit, I took him to the house he vandalized (old vehicles on the property) and he confessed to the old man who lived there. We couldn’t repair the damage so my son and I cut and split a winter’s worth of fire wood and stacked it. That took the two of us all day. DF#1 and the old man became friends and he would sometimes go over there and do yard work the old guy couldn’t do. When correcting my boys, I didn’t always involve law enforcement. Most times they were accountable privately. But they were always accountable. This is not to say they are perfect. But they know mom and dad expect accountability. You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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I think it comes down to the severity of the crime and whether someone's safety is at risk. ___________________________________________________ in the 'Merica Navy they teach you to go pew pew pew... Luckily in the PNW they taught me to go BANG BANG BANG | |||
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| Thank you Very little  |
That was great your mom did that, I can see Sheriff Andy giving you a stern talking too, maybe showing you the jail, locking you in for a few minutes, then sending you home with mom LOL... That was a different era when you could interact with a local law enforcement that wasn't bound by the new rules requiring them to report things like that regarding children. Today's world your mom could be charged with neglect, Child Services contacted, you're mom and the house checked while they determined that your mom was fit to raise kids. It's possible the repercussions of having the government in their homes has reduced the interaction of parents today with state and local law enforcement over problems with kids.
This was my parents method, dealing with them, the disappointment from a parent, having to face the person you wronged and make it right. | |||
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| Sigforum K9 handler |
So, I must have been sick the day these “new rules” were rolled out. Could you explain me what the “new rules” are? Because there’s noting in the juvenile code, nor the KARs that exist. And from having been with the feds for the last 5 years, the is no such thing in the USC. (I think we both know that no such rules exist in free states) Matter of fact, I wish it existed. I would love to lock up every parent that sees a cop in a public place and tells their child that the cop will come get them if they don’t eat their broccoli or whatever. Or the parents who call for service on an “out of control” six year old. Or the parents that call the police because their child won’t get out of bed to go to school. Hell, there’s no shortage of really shitty parents. Good news is that the legislator is likely passing a law allowing to try 15-17 year old violent criminals as adults. Maybe there’s hope yet. | |||
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Prepared for the Worst, Providing the Best |
I've never heard of those "rules" either. In the scenario as described, we have maybe a learner permit violation (infraction) or operator never licensed (misdemeanor) not actually witnessed by an officer, and unauthorized control of a motor vehicle without a victim, as mom is declining to pursue charges for the crime against her property. As a cop if I had a parent drag their kid into our office requesting that I explain the consequences of such behavior, I'd do exactly that and nothing more. I've done similar on numerous occasions.
So do you reject the rest of the Constitution, too, or just the parts you don't like? What you're suggesting is vigilantism. Our justice system does indeed have a lot of problems related to how it's being interpreted and applied, but that's not a solution with a desirable outcome. | |||
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In Odin we trust |
I know long, nested quotes are frowned upon, so I cut this waaaay down, but AKSD's answer nails my thoughts on this matter perfectly. Well said. _________________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than omnipotent moral busybodies" ~ C.S. Lewis | |||
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I am wondering if the word moral means one thing if a person is all alone without others to judge And Something different while in the company of others that may very well pass judgement. Which could skew the whole right vs wrong aspect Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency. Neck Ties, Hats and ammo brass, Never ,ever touch'em w/o asking first | |||
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