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June 11, 2020, 03:23 PM
NapoleonSolo
Indoor range hearing protection
So now that I have my first Sig pistol I am headed off to the range at the end of next week. I have researched the heck out of hearing protection and I am still in the dark on hearing protection indoors. Every review I have read or watched seems to indicate that there is not a set no matter the price that is good enough to protect our hearing indoors without wearing in-ear protection as well. I was in the Military 40 years ago and we had virtually nothing then. I want to protect what hearing I have left and really need your advice. The MSA's Sordin Supreme, the Peltor Comm III's are high end but don't seem to have the NRR that covers indoors. Pro Ears has some that are 30 NRR but reviews are so so. I have gone through the search function here but didn't find my answer. I have a set of Bose NC's that were 300.00 and love them but they are for flying and not the gun range. So what do you guys do indoors for hearing protection that works? Thanks very much in advance ladies and gents.


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June 11, 2020, 03:25 PM
parabellum
I have no advice about specific brand recommendations, but I can tell you that I don't step onto a gun range without wearing muffs over ear plugs. The additional sound suppression afforded by the ear plugs under muffs is quite noticeable.
June 11, 2020, 03:28 PM
Scurvy
I wear plugs as they provide a better NRR than muffs.
June 11, 2020, 03:35 PM
JohnV
Use foam plugs and muffs. If you use electronic muffs that compress sound, you’ll get the benefit of being able to hear through your foam plugs better while still offering the added protection of muffs. I’d look into the Peltor Tac 300’s or 500’s. Inexpensive and work great.





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June 11, 2020, 03:39 PM
dewhorse
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
I have no advice about specific brand recommendations, but I can tell you that I don't step onto a gun range without wearing muffs over ear plugs. The additional sound suppression afforded by the ear plugs under muffs is quite noticeable.


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June 11, 2020, 03:41 PM
229DAK
As an indoor range RSO, I was using electronic muffs and custom earplugs. I ended up going back to higher NRR non-electronic muffs with the custom plugs; worked better.

Outdoors I am fine with just electronic muffs.


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June 11, 2020, 03:52 PM
NapoleonSolo
After doing a lot of research, I had thought that shooting indoors which I have never done, would require two sets of hearing protection and the responses seem to confirm that. I don;t mind spending money on the right gear but like everyone, I don't want to waste my hard earned money as well.


“Our actions may be impeded...
But there can be no impeding our intentions or our dispositions. Because we can accommodate and adapt. The mind adapts and converts to its own purposes the obstacle to our acting.

The impeding to action advances action.

What stands in the way becomes the way.”

― Marcus Aurelius
June 11, 2020, 03:55 PM
H&K-Guy
Electronic monkey ears over foamies. It's the only way.

H&K-Guy
June 11, 2020, 04:05 PM
rscalzo
quote:
I don't step onto a gun range without wearing muffs over ear plugs


Very good advice. Recommended at any IR at the Academy. They provide plugs for all.


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June 11, 2020, 04:08 PM
HRK
Muffs over plugs...
June 11, 2020, 04:38 PM
dsiets
You'd be surprised at the number of people who don't know how to use foam plugs correctly. I worked w/ loud equipment for 14 yrs. and luckily someone showed me early on the proper way to insert foam plugs.

June 11, 2020, 04:40 PM
cas
Both, almost always.

51 years of gunfire, my hearing is about the only thing that still works.


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June 11, 2020, 04:48 PM
12131
Muffs over plugs, yes, that's what I do, also. Even that is no match for the 5.56 blasting next to you indoor. When that happens, I just have to move as far away as possible.


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June 11, 2020, 05:11 PM
cruiser68
Electronic muffs over ear plugs for me.
June 11, 2020, 05:50 PM
ARMT Guy
Whenever I go to either an indoor or outdoor range for personal shooting time, I've always just used electronic ear muffs, ( Howard Leight ) but when I worked indoor ranges professionally, I normally doubled up, ( triple flange type ear plugs with neck cord + the Howard Leight electronic ear muffs. )




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June 11, 2020, 05:54 PM
egregore
The number you want to look for is the NRR (Noise Reduction Rating). Get muffs with as high a NRR as you can find. I haven't looked for years, but when I did, electronic muffs couldn't match the NRR of the best conventional ones.
June 11, 2020, 05:56 PM
WaterburyBob
I agree with everyone saying muffs plus plugs. That's what I do.



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June 11, 2020, 06:07 PM
Scuba Steve Sig
I went to my indoor range this week, it had been months and I wasn't thinking and only put on muffs. Someone two spots over was hammering away with an AR or AK, after a dozen rounds I had to step out and do muffs over plugs. Huge difference and I remembered I always did that out of an overabundance of caution, just forgot. I have some electronic muffs I tried with my wife, but had the same problem and couldn't stand it, come to think of it, I hadn't used muffs over plugs then... We thought something was wrong with the muffs.
June 11, 2020, 06:59 PM
flashguy
quote:
Originally posted by 12131:
Muffs over plugs, yes, that's what I do, also. Even that is no match for the 5.56 blasting next to you indoor. When that happens, I just have to move as far away as possible.
You'd hate my .50AE pistol.

flashguy




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June 11, 2020, 07:29 PM
229DAK
quote:
Originally posted by cas:
51 years of gunfire, my hearing is about the only thing that still works.

Huh? What? Big Grin


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