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Originally posted by RichardC:
First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less.

Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three.

Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three.

Five is right out.

Once the number three, being the third number, be reached,
then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.

Classic stuff!

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Originally posted by SigSauerP226:
You can literally watch how the grenades come apart.

Thanks. I was wrong about the M67 fragmentation. I don't think I imagined the notched wire, though, so it would be interesting to know where I got that.

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Originally posted by RichardC:
First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less.

Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three.

Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three.

Five is right out.

Once the number three, being the third number, be reached,
then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.

Ah, a soothing verse from the Book of Armaments.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
Thanks. I was wrong about the M67 fragmentation. I don't think I imagined the notched wire, though, so it would be interesting to know where I got that.

You may have been thinking of its predecessor, the M26.

It had an inner frag sleeve made up of stacked pre-scored metal rings. Not wire exactly, but thin strips designed to fragment into hundreds of tiny square shards of shrapnel.

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Originally posted by RogueJSK:
You may have been thinking of its predecessor, the M26.

That would explain what I thought I remembered.
Thanks.

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Originally posted by trapper189:
Are they ambidextrous?

Yes, but they’re thrown differently depending on the throwing hand. Right hand, fuse up. Left hand, fuse down. This always orients the “spoon” so it can be held while keeping the ring accessible for being pulled with the non-throwing hand.

This has more info on blast vs fragmentation:

Why the Army’s new M111 grenade uses blast overpressure instead of fragmentation

The M111 Offensive Hand Grenade is meant to be more effective and reduce the risk of injuring friendly forces when used in confined spaces.

Jeff Schogol
Published Mar 12, 2026 11:18 AM EDT

The Army has developed a new hand grenade that kills by using blast overpressure instead of fragments when it explodes, which Army officials say is more effective for fighting in close-quarter urban environments.

Blast overpressure is the rapid high wave of pressure that results from an explosion that violently compresses and decompresses human tissue. It can cause serious injuries to the lungs, gastrointestinal tract, brain, and other organs. It can also be fatal...

Complete article:

https://taskandpurpose.com/tec...-blast-overpressure/

So...I milder friendlier grenade? No. Grenades are there to kill those who are trying to kill you. It's simple really.

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Originally posted by Sigmund:
The M111 Offensive Hand Grenade is meant to be more effective and reduce the risk of injuring friendly forces when used in confined spaces.

[Emphasis added—evidently necessarily. ]

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Originally posted by Gustofer:
So...I milder friendlier grenade? No. Grenades are there to kill those who are trying to kill you. It's simple really.

Again, it's not a new concept, just an upgrade over the existing concussion grenade the MK3. Offensive concussion grenades have been a thing in war for over a century. (The original MK3 dates back to 1918.)

And the existing frag grenade isn't going anywhere. Different tools for different situations.

Overpressure in an enclosed area will injure/kill just as shrapnel will. It's just safer than frags for the friendly forces who aren't inside that enclosed building/bunker they're assaulting, as outside the affected enclosed area it's less dangerous than shrapnel that may escape the enclosed area.

Yeah, HE or concussion grenades aren’t new, nor are they that obscure. The German potato masher was a HE grenade, and versions of it were used early in WWI. They also made collars that would go over the body of the grenade that were designed to fragment upon explosion, creating fragmentation, expanding its lethality in certain applications.