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I won't hold my breath, but this is a good sign.

https://thehill.com/homenews/m...ia-trump-biden-2024/

NY Times editor: Not media’s job to prevent Trump from winning

The executive editor of The New York Times is saying it’s not up to the news organization he runs, or any other, to stop former President Trump from winning a second term in office this fall.

“So there are people out there in the world who may decide, based on their democratic rights, to elect Donald Trump as president. It is not the job of the news media to prevent that from happening. It’s the job of [President] Biden and the people around Biden to prevent that from happening,” Times executive editor Joe Kahn told Semafor during an interview that published over the weekend. “It’s our job to cover the full range of issues that people have. At the moment, democracy is one of them.”

Kahn predicted “Trump could win this election in a popular vote” and argued the Times should not shy away from covering issues that polling shows are favorable to Trump over Biden, such as immigration.

“We become an instrument of the Biden campaign? We turn ourselves into Xinhua News Agency or Pravda and put out a stream of stuff that’s very, very favorable to them and only write negative stories about the other side?” he asked. “And that would accomplish — what?”

The comments from the newspaper’s top editor come just days after reports that some aides in Biden’s White House are growing frustrated with the Times’s reporting on the administration.

Kahn argued the average Times reader gets “a pretty well-rounded, fair portrait of Biden” and his legislative accomplishments.

“Of course, you’d also see some coverage about his frailty and his age,” he added.


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“And that would accomplish — what?”


Hmm, perhaps a sharp decline in subscriptions?

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Not the media’s job to prevent Trump from winning? Ya think?

These media people don’t realize the Judgement they’re going to face one day….


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They are undergoing a “strategic retreat” in the TDS arena. They realize that short of out-right in-the-open ELECTION THEFT, that the Dems are now a “bridge too far” in staying in power.

The DNC’s RedGuard/BLM/AntiFa/Hamas battalions are showing themselves to be the “paper tigers” that they’ve always been.

The anti-Semitic college demos are getting a significant pushback by both college frat boys, local Gov, the Big$ donors, and they are in a no win scenario.

Payback on the Dems will be Hell come November.


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Except The Times routinely does exactly what this scholar is denying.
 
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Covering ass, trying to boost subscription money, softening our stance against their unending parade of leftism by jingling keys in our face.


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Translation - It will not be our fault when Dementia Joe loses



Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity

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The phrase "too little, too late" was coined to describe that clown's comments.
 
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In reaction to Gustofer's post at the top of this page. . .

Those G-D Commies at the NYT's can go FUCK THEMSELVES!

Here is their 'mea culpa' after President Trump won in 2016. . .

To Our Readers, From the Publisher and Executive Editor

Nov. 13, 2016

When the biggest political story of the year reached a dramatic and unexpected climax late Tuesday night, our newsroom turned on a dime and did what it has done for nearly two years — cover the 2016 election with agility and creativity.

After such an erratic and unpredictable election there are inevitable questions: Did Donald Trump’s sheer unconventionality lead us and other news outlets to underestimate his support among American voters? What forces and strains in America drove this divisive election and outcome? Most important, how will a president who remains a largely enigmatic figure actually govern when he takes office?

As we reflect on the momentous result, and the months of reporting and polling that preceded it, we aim to rededicate ourselves to the fundamental mission of Times journalism. That is to report America and the world honestly, without fear or favor, striving always to understand and reflect all political perspectives and life experiences in the stories that we bring to you. It is also to hold power to account, impartially and unflinchingly. You can rely on The New York Times to bring the same fairness, the same level of scrutiny, the same independence to our coverage of the new president and his team.

We cannot deliver the independent, original journalism for which we are known without the loyalty of our readers. We want to take this opportunity, on behalf of all Times journalists, to thank you for that loyalty.

Sincerely,

Arthur Sulzberger Jr., publisher

Dean Baquet, executive editor"

Those pieces of shit were only fooling themselves and their oh-so sophisticated and elite audience of course, as they NEVER stopped lying.


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^^^ Brilliant! Someone should smash that POS editorial back at the commies' face.

"Could the Gray Lady be returning to objectivity?" That's no different than asking, "Could Kim Jong-un allow free and fair election to choose the next dictator?"


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Covering ass, trying to boost subscription money, softening our stance against their unending parade of leftism by jingling keys in our face.

Translation - It will not be our fault when Dementia Joe loses.

Both of those are good descriptions.

NY Times editor: Not media’s job to prevent Trump from winning
It's not our fault!



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If you believe this bullshit, please contact me.

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NYT v Sullivans was about NYT, successfully, arguing that they shouldn’t be liable for libel, unless they knowingly lie.

And as long as they do not do investigation of someone they think is lying, they can publish.

They never had any objectivity, TMK.
 
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They are like Lucy pulling the football away from Charlie Brown, publishing editorials like this from time to time and getting hopes up, only to go back to the same old shit.
 
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NY Times editor: Not media’s job to prevent Trump from winning

The executive editor of The New York Times is saying it’s not up to the news organization he runs, or any other, to stop former President Trump from winning a second term in office this fall.

“So there are people out there in the world who may decide, based on their democratic rights, to elect Donald Trump as president. It is not the job of the news media to prevent that from happening. It’s the job of [President] Biden and the people around Biden to prevent that from happening,” Times executive editor Joe Kahn told Semafor during an interview that published over the weekend. “It’s our job to cover the full range of issues that people have. At the moment, democracy is one of them.”

Does the rest of his staff know this?
The last time an editor or, writer attempted publish an article or, op-ed which was more objective or, more centrist, let alone a conservative POV...they had an open revolt on their hands resulting their dismissal. See James Bennet and Bari Weiss.
I'm not holding my breath on this and my bet is he's openly saying this to placate the critics but, privately telling his staff to continue doing what they're doing.
 
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Does the rest of his staff know this?
The last time an editor or, writer attempted publish an article or, op-ed which was more objective or, more centrist, let alone a conservative POV...they had an open revolt on their hands resulting their dismissal. See James Bennet and Bari Weiss.
I'm not holding my breath on this and my bet is he's openly saying this to placate the critics but, privately telling his staff to continue doing what they're doing.


Don't leave out Senator Tom Cotton's editorial......


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Does the rest of his staff know this?
The last time an editor or, writer attempted publish an article or, op-ed which was more objective or, more centrist, let alone a conservative POV...they had an open revolt on their hands resulting their dismissal. See James Bennet and Bari Weiss.
I'm not holding my breath on this and my bet is he's openly saying this to placate the critics but, privately telling his staff to continue doing what they're doing.


Don't leave out Senator Tom Cotton's editorial......

That's why James Bennet was shown the door....
 
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Pretty ‘eye opening’ but not surprising article (from Hot Air) that Mark Levin posted on TRUTH Social -

Has Anyone Noticed That Criticism of Hamas Has Vanished In the NY Times?

First two paragraphs -

“The answer to that is yes ... in Israel, anyway. In a war started by Hamas with a grotesque massacre and pillaging of southern Israel, the New York Times has spent more time criticizing the victim rather than the perp. We know that thanks to an analysis conducted by Lilac Sigan for the Jerusalem Post, who researched the stories featured by the 'Paper of Record' in its newsletters since the start of the war.

Sigan found the coverage fairly balanced ... for the first week of the war. After Israel launched its ground operations in Gaza, however, criticism of Hamas shrunk dramatically in comparison to that of Israel -- and disappeared altogether about two months ago.”

The article details the data collection methodology and results.

So, the NYT’s is basically full of shit (overfilled, actually) when they claim to want be ‘be more objective’ and trying to not LIE all of the time.


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that's rich, eh...
 
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