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And the setback of the mound tales place mid season? It would seem doing it at the beginning would give pitchers more time to adapt to it.


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Wanna fix/change a rule that would actually have a positive impact on the game, the timetable, and the players? Change the way extra innings are played. No more 17 inning, five hours games that burn entire bullpens and rosters. That's a change that's long overdue yet its not even in the current 'new' rules being tested. Way to be Commissioner Manfred. You're doing just a bang up job. Roll Eyes


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Leave baseball alone. If their 9 can beat your 9, you need to get better.
 
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Leave it alone. If it's too slow for the current generation they can watch soccer.


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It's too slow because of all the commercial breaks.

Reality is the only people who complain the games are too long, are the people who make the games too long.


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for at least the last 100 years of the modern era there hasn't been a problem with the way things are.

i think getting the strike zone and close plays more consistently called accurately is the only thing i can get behind. i don't mind more reviews if it means getting the correct call.
 
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Baseball games are so boringly long & uninteresting. Sorry, I gotta side with Millenials on this.

5 minutes of action packed into 4 hours, played by a buncha 3rd Worlders. I know, let’s have 160+ games! Let’s have pitching coaches, catchers, pitchers, batters, & head coaches delay the game at any given moment, for as long as they want.

I’m not sure if anyone could make up a more boring game.
 
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I am a die hard traditional baseball player

Heck we used some type of shift back in the 80s and 90s when i played little league and high school ball. You know what? We learned how to hit opposite field.

I hate instant replay. I can understand the logic in playoff games and the world series but they seem to be doing it for every play. Along with the fact that it seems they are taking longer and longer to make a decision.

Now, do I like 9 innings of a pitching dual where the final is 1-0. No, but that is part of the game.

I do agree that the season should be shorter, but quit messing with things to try to make everyone happy.
 
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What is "shift" in baseball? Confused
 
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What is "shift" in baseball? Confused


When the fielders shift towards the 1st base line some for left handed batters.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infield_shift


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Baseball has only been around for just over 150 years.

Every sport changes over time. Cricket was modified as matches took multiple days, rugby has evolved and now there are multiple variations, football has changed to the forward pass, and soccer has also adapted.

Rules changes are a standard in any sport, as managers and players figure out ways of exploiting them and also to adapt to the audience. Otherwise, Smokey Yunick-type antics would reign supreme in sports!

I don’t agree with many of these changes, except for the digital strike zone. A ball is a ball and a strike is a strike, there should be no reason to allow a human to influence that.

The season should be 1/3rd of what it is today as well.
 
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This reminds me of the time when the NHL wanted to bow the sides of the net frame to increase scoring. Just foolishness.




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The shift could be rendered utterly worthless if managers would have their batters lay bunts down the third base line every time the opposing team shifts. Simple rule of thumb...games are won by getting runners on base.


Thank you. I keep muttering this. "Oh look you hit into a shift that you could see from home plate. Well done, idiot."




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How about we eliminate the DH all the way around, and call it good? If your team's pitcher can't pitch, well that's part of the game, right?

My Cards might do ok, though.... Smile


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Baseball games are so boringly long & uninteresting. Sorry, I gotta side with Millenials on this.


The game is supposed to be "long". That's the pace of the game usually, but also it's one of the only sports where the defense has control of the ball.

If you think the game is long and unintersting, that's fine, but you probably don't understand the game if you're going around saying that stuff. Personally, I hate watching basketball, but I also completely understand that my knowledge of the game is serverely lacking.

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I don't mind some rule tweaking here and there, but there sure are a lot of stupid rule changes that don't make sense to me. Base on balls for instance. The pitcher should have to throw the pitches. Saying, I want to walk that batter and then not actually throwing the pitches is stupid.




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What is "shift" in baseball? Confused


When the fielders shift towards the 1st base line some for left handed batters.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infield_shift
Ah, thanks.
 
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Well, in their defense, NASCAR has made plenty of changes as of late.

The race day has been shortened quite a bit. Getting 45,000 fans home is much faster than 80,000.


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Lame.

I say make it longer. Make the roster 26 man, and have 2 "healthy scratch" spots like hockey.

You put the two most recently used starting pitchers in that spot and then a team can have 3 more bench players or relievers.

Oh, and the DH is for communists.





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Nope, nope and more nope.

Baseball has been played on the same field since the beginning of the game. It should ALWAYS be played on the same field. Moving the mound and increasing the base size is just dumb.

To speed up the game, make the frigging replay calls *much* faster than now. If they can't tell in 20-25 seconds what happened in the age of high-def before that, the play stands as called. Mound visits are part of the game strategy, limit the time but don't eliminate it.
DH is what you get when a manager doesn't know how to manage.

Robo-ump at the plate...I'm on the fence with that - I think there's an argument for both sides. There should be more scrutiny on which umps totally SUCK at calling balls/strikes and they should be let go or never used behind the plate.


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Leave the game alone!

If they feel like they have to change it up for production value, I have some comments.

Robo / radar ump. . . whatever it takes to get it right and more consistent without increasing time.

Eliminate the DH or whatever, but just make it the same.

Base size increased? . . . I'm struggling to see the point. Easier for the runner to reach? Gets to the bag 1.5 inches sooner? (if you use the same anchor point) If you move the base back to be the same distance between home and first, then the runner gains no advantage but the baseman's stretch gets him three inches closer to the throw, so, the baseman gets the benefit anyway except on a throw-over, whatever. .

No shift?. . .every sport allows the defense to shift, learn to hit away or bunt. Baseball has always been a defensive game. That's why every batter goes to the plate alone against nine. To change that, is to change the game.

Pitchers face minimum of three batters or end of the inning?. . . Every team allows for subs, just put the switch on a clock.

No mound visits unless pitcher change?. . .if the the team gets a time out, you can't tell him when to use it.

Mound will be moved back 2 feet at midpoint of the season?. . . Nightmare! pitcher injuries, hit batsmen, and a bazillion walks. You want to make more offense without risking pitcher delivery? Then outlaw the curve. You're going to ruin the game anyway, might as well do it up big without risking injury. Pitchers spend years developing delivery for precise windows. Changing the distance would be devastating. If you're trying to reduce pitcher advantage, lower the mound, don't move it back.

If you want to speed up the game, put the pitchers on a pitch clock like football play clock and basketball shot clock. Starts when the batter steps in, and once in, he can't step out.

To bring a quicker end to tie games after nine, start each half inning with runners on base; 10th inning with a runner on first. 11th inning with runners on first and second. 12th and following, start with bases loaded.

Actually, except for playoffs, I quit watching professional baseball when every series seemed to be AL vs NL.

So, there is that.

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