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| SF Jake |
Don’t get hung up on hairy chests and need for a shave...they have to look like they are wearing a sweater before I consider it.....I’ve run literally 100s of cardiac arrests throughout my career so I can speak from experience as well as some of the others here. An important consideration IMO is output of energy from the AED....some models are a consistent energy level for each shock....and some (such as the physio control model shown in this thread) have escalating energy delivery if subsequent shocks are needed. Energy levels for defibrillators are given in joules....an escalating model would deliver 200 joules for the first shock, 300 for the second and 360 for the third and subsequent shocks....It is not uncommon to have to deliver multiple shocks to an individual depending on countless other factors that come into play...persons size, heart disease type and severity, electrolyte imbalances, medications they take only to scratch the surface and name a few. Technical shit I know...but good to know and make informed decisions on a purchase. I know one manufacturer that delivers a consistent 150 joules every time...sucks if it isn’t enough! email in my profile if you have questions...easier for a phone conversation if desired. Good luck Coloradohunter! ________________________ Those who trade liberty for security have neither | |||
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Basically, this has you covered. | |||
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| Rumors of my death are greatly exaggerated  |
Thx guys. I’ll take all your kind responses and real life experience to heart. Since we fly part 91 I’ll check about FAA approval to see if required. I certainly won’t just buy the cheaper stuff. My clients have money, so quality and support are paramount vs expenses. "Someday I hope to be half the man my bird-dog thinks I am." looking forward to 4 years of TRUMP! | |||
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Good point, I forgot about that feature on the Physio Control models. Also cgode brings up a good point about the hairy chested folks. I didn’t mean to imply that it was common to have problems with hairy chested, just that a second set of pads is good insurance. I’ve used AEDs about 20-25 times in 20 years as a volunteer firefighter, police officer, fed and former EMT. I only encountered issues with a super hairy chest once or twice. I remember it being an issue on Christmas Eve last year and I think one other time and both of those guys had a sweater worth of hair on their chest. Regardless, good on you and your employer for taking an additional step towards preparedness. “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” | |||
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. Been doing EMS since Lifepac III. Never really had a problem with hair, it was the sweating that had the leads not sticking. We had a gel pad we would drop on the patient tp improve conductivity. The whole front to back thing may work well in hospital but field setting and it was just you and your partner, you just beared down and hoped for the best. 200, 300, 360, epi, atropine, bolus of lidocaine, repeat,  | |||
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| Rumors of my death are greatly exaggerated |
Well gang, after a month or two of emails etc, I finally placed an order for a Zoll unit. I checked with the local EMS folks and they didn’t care what init we used, they said they would reapply their own pads if they picked somebody up. Phillips units are not obtainable due to battery issues currently. So, I’ll install the Zoll onboard next week for that trip and confer with the owners about how many more to purchase for their lodge and where to display them. Then I’ll round everyone up for demo, video training, and such. Hopefully we won’t need them anytime soon. I appreciate all the help and comments with this acquisition. "Someday I hope to be half the man my bird-dog thinks I am." looking forward to 4 years of TRUMP! | |||
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Regarding hairy chests. We have a disposable razor in our kit. Have used our AED a few times, never ran across the need for a razor. This technology does save lots of lives. Niech Zyje P-220 Steve | |||
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