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University of Utah reassigned a graduate assistant after her syllabus restricted students with concealed guns to a ‘Second Amendment zone’

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August 23, 2018, 07:38 AM
sgalczyn
University of Utah reassigned a graduate assistant after her syllabus restricted students with concealed guns to a ‘Second Amendment zone’
https://www.sltrib.com/news/ed.../21/university-utah/

A graduate assistant at the University of Utah has been reassigned from teaching a class this semester after handing out a syllabus that said bringing a concealed carry gun to class “is absurd, antisocial, and frightening behavior” and that any of her students who have one — even if permitted — would be forced to stand in a “3x3 taped square” in the back of the classroom.

“This zone also does not include a desk, because desks are reserved for students who respect the personal and psychological safety of their classmates and instructor,” reads a copy of the course outline.

Chris Nelson, the U.’s spokesman, said the one-paragraph “weapons policy” was removed from the online curriculum Tuesday, one day after fall classes started, and students were “alerted to the error.” The graduate assistant, too, has apologized, received additional training and will now “instead have other assignments.” The school has not identified the teacher.

Her “Second Amendment zone,” had it been implemented, would have violated state law, which allows people to tote guns on public university campuses without restrictions if they have concealed-weapons permits.

“Concealed carry is protected under your Second Amendment rights,” the teaching assistant acknowledges in the syllabus. “However, because the University of Utah reserves the right to restrict elements of the First Amendment on campus to specifically sanctioned ‘free speech zones’ I am reserving the right to restrict elements of the Second Amendment in my own classroom.

“If you feel that it is somehow at all appropriate to bring a gun to class (hint: it is not — this is absurd, antisocial, and frightening behavior), you are restricted to spending your time in class in my ‘Second Amendment zone’ a 3x3 taped square on the floor in the very back of the classroom, that will be shared with all other gun carriers.”

For years, the U. banned guns. But then-Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff issued an opinion in 2001 that the school had no authority to do so, and three years later, the Legislature passed a law blocking schools from restricting the possession or use of firearms. The Utah Supreme Court upheld that law in 2006.

Since then, the university has allowed concealed weapons on campus but resisted efforts to allow guns to be openly carried.

State Rep. Karianne Lisonbee, R-Clearfield, received a copy of the syllabus Monday from two students in the class and posted it to her Facebook page.

“I am livid,” she wrote. “A University of Utah professor doesn't understand the Bill of Rights and university policy on free speech — which is disturbing enough. But even more egregious, she is seeking to break state law and deprive students of their rights.”

Lisonbee successfully sponsored legislation last year to allow Utahns as young as 18 to get concealed-carry permits. She sponsored the legislation to equip young women, particularly on college campuses, who might have to defend themselves against potential rapists or attackers.


"No matter where you go - there you are"
August 23, 2018, 07:47 AM
TKO
These folks just have zero problem restricting the rights of people they don't agree with, no matter the law.

Remind me again who the Nazi's are again?




"The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits." Albert Einstein
August 23, 2018, 07:47 AM
parabellum
Typical totally ignorant and biased leftist pinhead.
August 23, 2018, 07:48 AM
darthfuster
If rights can be limited to zones, they are no longer rights. They are permissions. Permissions can be denied.



You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier
August 23, 2018, 07:55 AM
parabellum
Feakin' graduate student. No juice, no authority. Cocky little bitch. Do you even have enough of a clue to be embarrassed? Roll Eyes

Why don't you stand in your little fucking square yourself, Hillary Clinton junior?


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August 23, 2018, 08:08 AM
sgalczyn
The only time I stand in a 3x3 taped area for the 2A:




"No matter where you go - there you are"
August 23, 2018, 08:51 AM
Leemur
Sounds like she has a sandy front hole and empty head.
August 23, 2018, 08:57 AM
a1abdj
I guess I don't understand how the brain of a leftist works. You want to make me stand in a box (or get on a train, or report to reeducation camp). I have a gun. You don't. How exactly is that going to work out?


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August 23, 2018, 09:05 AM
Sportshooter
I shudder to think what she’d be like if she had real power. Could the “we need some muscle over here” woman from Missouri have a sister in Utah?
August 23, 2018, 09:07 AM
ChicagoSigMan
Yep, we're the fascists alright...definitely us.
August 23, 2018, 09:07 AM
parabellum
quote:
Originally posted by a1abdj:
I guess I don't understand how the brain of a leftist works.
She wanted to insult and demean people with whom she does not agree politically. That's all this is.

She was there to perform a specific function in furthering the education of those students, but instead, she chose to use her tiny little pulpit to throw a tantrum.


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August 23, 2018, 09:11 AM
TigerDore
quote:
Originally posted by TKO:
Remind me again who the Nazi's are again?

The Left, just as it has always been.



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August 23, 2018, 09:42 AM
Edmond
quote:
Originally posted by a1abdj:
I guess I don't understand how the brain of a leftist works.


That's the problem, it doesn't work... They rely on their feels.


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August 23, 2018, 09:43 AM
Edmond
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Feakin' graduate student. No juice, no authority. Cocky little bitch. Do you even have enough of a clue to be embarrassed? Roll Eyes


Some idiots, you put them in some sort of position with a title and they act like they rule the world.


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August 23, 2018, 09:44 AM
Some Shot
quote:
psychological safety


Snowflake concept?
August 23, 2018, 09:46 AM
HayesGreener
Another stunning display of arrogance by a person oblivious of the world outside her academic bubble. Publicly anti-gun in Utah? The cluelessness is strong in this one.


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August 23, 2018, 10:05 AM
jhe888
Nice to see they quashed her foolishness.




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August 23, 2018, 10:56 AM
gearhounds
quote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
Nice to see they quashed her foolishness.

Agreed. It should serve as a clear example to anyone that feels that their personal beliefs somehow trump unalienable rights.




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August 23, 2018, 11:35 AM
berto
Lemme guess, 17th century French queer literature?

It's time to name names. Public school likely on public grant money. I need to know who you are toots, ya know, so I don't offend you.
August 23, 2018, 12:19 PM
Skins2881
quote:
“This zone also does not include a desk, because desks are reserved for students who respect the personal and psychological safety of their classmates and instructor,”


Looks like her psychological safety was already comprised.



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