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I need help demolishing someone in this stupid gun argument
February 22, 2018, 09:42 AM
RAMIUSI need help demolishing someone in this stupid gun argument
I figured I'd tap the brilliance of this forum to eviscerate this person.
This is on facebook btw, I make it a policy to not get into these arguments, but I'm making an exception for THIS person because it's so freaking retarded.
The person said this:
"When my child hits another child with a stick, I don't blame the stick, I take the stick away."
Obviously, it's some stupid metaphor for guns.
I responded: That's stick...blaming the stick. If my child cant handle a stick responsibly, I failed as a parent for not teaching my child how to responsibly handle a stick and not to hit another child.
Clown's response: "So you let your child keep the stick he's hitting everyone with?
February 22, 2018, 09:44 AM
MikeGLII'd move on.
Pigeons. Chess. Shit. Victory.
But I've had those arguments and realized my own stupidity afterwards.
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Steak: Rare. Coffee: Black. Bourbon: Neat. February 22, 2018, 09:46 AM
parabellumSomebody's wrong on the Internet, are they? Yes, you should seize on that, what with it being such a rare occurrence and all.
February 22, 2018, 09:46 AM
radiomanIf my child hits another child with a stick, there better be a damn good reason, e.g. SD, or there will be hell to pay.
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February 22, 2018, 09:46 AM
newtoSig765Emphasize that you're talking about teaching responsibility, not stick-wielding. If he persists, tell him you'll meet with him and demonstrate both skills. That's all I got.
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February 22, 2018, 09:47 AM
Ryanp225They've already decided that they know everything about the subject and are convinced you are wrong and there is nothing you can teach them.
They either have the brain power to use logic and reason....or they don't. Leave the ones that don't to their own deep thoughts like how many genders there are out there.
February 22, 2018, 09:48 AM
a1abdjHow is that parent going to possibly take all of the sticks? See those woods over there? Going to load that in the back of your Prius?
So you've taken one particular stick. What's stopping your precious spawn from grabbing another? Then another? Eventually you'll get fed up with removing so many sticks that you'll remove the child away from the sticks.
Thus the solution. To stop the problem you don't remove the sticks or their availability. You remove the problem child.
February 22, 2018, 09:49 AM
Jimbo54So if one child missuses a stick, than all sticks must be banned from all children. Sounds draconian to me.
Jim
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February 22, 2018, 09:51 AM
PatenIt's already too late. You should have told them you would take the stick away from their kid and then beat them with it because they failed as a parent. You can't go back now.
February 22, 2018, 09:51 AM
Timdogg6I got it. We need to burn all the trees because 1 kid can’t use a stick right.
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February 22, 2018, 09:55 AM
Aeteoclesquote:
Originally posted by RAMIUS:
Clown's response: "So you let your child keep the stick he's hitting everyone with?
You already fucked up the argument.
The original premise is that the child misbehaves, the stick gets removed. You replied, don't blame the stick. Now you are trapped, because the problem child is still there.
Your reply should have been: "If your child misbehaves with the stick then your child should be punished and be removed from the playground. The other kids should go on playing with sticks. If you don't teach the misbehaving kid some manners, he'll go around hitting the others with rocks, or even his hands and feet."
February 22, 2018, 09:56 AM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by RAMIUS:
Clown's response: "So you let your child keep the stick he's hitting everyone with?
No, you take it away. What you don't do however is take away every other child's stick who did nothing wrong and who simply was playing with his or her stick responsibly.
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Sailor1911quote:
Originally posted by newtoSig765:
Emphasize that you're talking about teaching responsibility, not stick-wielding. If he persists, tell him you'll meet with him and demonstrate both skills. That's all I got.
This!
Place your clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark.
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IndianaBoyTheir analogy is faulty.
Gun banners essentially want to cut down all the trees, regardless of all the good that comes from them.
One child hitting another with a stick does not merit cutting down all the trees and ordering that we immediately burn all sticks.
February 22, 2018, 10:01 AM
RAMIUSquote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Somebody's wrong on the Internet, are they? Yes, you should seize on that, what with it being such a rare occurrence and all.
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I know I know, and you’re right. That’s why I don’t normally engage in this silly stuff. Even on this forum I try my best to stay outta the contentious threads. But this is sooo dumb and sooo simplistic and this person annoys me. And I’m having a bad day at work, and I got #triggered!
February 22, 2018, 10:11 AM
Veeperquote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by RAMIUS:
Clown's response: "So you let your child keep the stick he's hitting everyone with?
No, you take it away. What you don't do however is take away every other child's stick who did nothing wrong and who simply was playing with his or her stick responsibly.
The other 1 million sticks hit no innocent children yesterday.
Additionally, the stick itself will lay dormant until wielded by either someone intending harm, or someone using it to protect an innocent person or their own life.
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Opus Deiquote:
Originally posted by RAMIUS:
Clown's response: "So you let your child keep the stick he's hitting everyone with?
We have due process and ostensibly proportionate punishment in this country. We don't give life sentences for misdemeanors. Only when the problem is repeated or escalates should we do something more severe.
If we were as proactive about protecting people in other respects, maybe baby daddy D'antwan should have his "stick" taken away before fathering another child doomed to burden society.
February 22, 2018, 10:15 AM
LDDquote:
Originally posted by RAMIUS:
Clown's response: "So you let your child keep the stick he's hitting everyone with?
One stick keeps another in its paper-towel roll sheath.
February 22, 2018, 10:25 AM
Pale Horsequote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by RAMIUS:
Clown's response: "So you let your child keep the stick he's hitting everyone with?
No, you take it away. What you don't do however is take away every other child's stick who did nothing wrong and who simply was playing with his or her stick responsibly.
This is the correct answer. People who use guns in crimes should have their right to own a gun revoked and their guns taken away. I should not have my gun taken away though because I did nothing wrong.
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February 22, 2018, 10:33 AM
JALLENFind two or three cougars who will say that your Facebook idiot abused them 15 years ago. They will be fired in disgrace, divorced, and end up living under a bridge in a refrigerator carton.
That’ll take their mind off your trouble!
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
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