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Milley - treasonous usurper of Presidential power...

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September 14, 2021, 03:33 PM
feersum dreadnaught
Milley - treasonous usurper of Presidential power...
I don't recall Milley being elected to be anything. It is not his role to self-appoint, then engage in negotiations with China. He has to go.


Washington (CNN)

Two days after the January 6 attack on the US Capitol, President Donald Trump's top military adviser, Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley, single-handedly took secret action to limit Trump from potentially ordering a dangerous military strike or launching nuclear weapons, according to "Peril," a new book by legendary journalist Bob Woodward and veteran Washington Post reporter Robert Costa.

Woodward and Costa write that Milley, deeply shaken by the assault, 'was certain that Trump had gone into a serious mental decline in the aftermath of the election, with Trump now all but manic, screaming at officials and constructing his own alternate reality about endless election conspiracies.' Milley worried that Trump could 'go rogue,' the authors write.

"You never know what a president's trigger point is," Milley told his senior staff, according to the book. In response, Milley took extraordinary action, and called a secret meeting in his Pentagon office on January 8 to review the process for military action, including launching nuclear weapons. Speaking to senior military officials in charge of the National Military Command Center, the Pentagon's war room, Milley instructed them not to take orders from anyone unless he was involved.

"No matter what you are told, you do the procedure. You do the process. And I'm part of that procedure," Milley told the officers, according to the book. He then went around the room, looked each officer in the eye, and asked them to verbally confirm they understood. "Got it?" Milley asked, according to the book. "Yes, sir." 'Milley considered it an oath,' the authors write.

"Peril" is based on more than 200 interviews with firsthand participants and witnesses, and it paints a chilling picture of Trump's final days in office. The book, Woodward's third on the Trump presidency, recounts behind-the-scenes moments of a commander in chief unhinged and explosive, yelling at senior advisers and aides as he desperately sought to cling to power.

It also includes exclusive reporting on the events leading up to January 6 and Trump's reaction to the insurrection, as well as newly revealed details about Trump's January 5 Oval Office showdown with his vice president, Mike Pence. Woodward and Costa obtained documents, calendars, diaries, emails, meeting notes, transcripts and other records.

Milley's fear was based on his own observations of Trump's erratic behavior. His concern was magnified by the events of January 6 and the 'extraordinary risk' the situation posed to US national security, the authors write. Milley had already had two back-channel phone calls with China's top general, who was on high alert over the chaos in the US.

Then Milley received a blunt phone call from House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, according to the book. Woodward and Costa exclusively obtained a transcript of the call, during which Milley tried to reassure Pelosi that the nuclear weapons were safe. Pelosi pushed back. "What I'm saying to you is that if they couldn't even stop him from an assault on the Capitol, who even knows what else he may do? And is there anybody in charge at the White House who was doing anything but kissing his fat butt all over this?"

Pelosi continued, "You know he's crazy. He's been crazy for a long time." According to Woodward and Costa, Milley responded, "Madam Speaker, I agree with you on everything." After the call, Milley decided he had to act. He told his top service chiefs to watch everything "all the time." He called the director of the National Security Agency, Paul Nakasone, and told him, "Needles up ... keep watching, scan." And he told then-CIA Director Gina Haspel, "Aggressively watch everything, 360."

The authors write, 'Milley was overseeing the mobilization of America's national security state without the knowledge of the American people or the rest of the world.' Woodward and Costa also write that 'some might contend that Milley had overstepped his authority and taken extraordinary power for himself,' but he believed his actions were 'a good faith precaution to ensure there was no historic rupture in the international order, no accidental war with China or others, and no use of nuclear weapons.'

Milley's fear that Trump could do something unpredictable came from experience. Right after Trump lost the election, Milley discovered the President had signed a military order to withdraw all troops from Afghanistan by January 15, 2021, before he left the White House. The memo had been secretly drafted by two Trump loyalists. No one on the national security team knew about it, according to the book. The memo was eventually nullified, but Milley could not forget that Trump had done an end run around his top military advisers. Woodward and Costa write that after January 6, Milley 'felt no absolute certainty that the military could control or trust Trump and believed it was his job as the senior military officer to think the unthinkable and take any and all necessary precautions.'

Milley called it the 'absolute darkest moment of theoretical possibility,' the authors write.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/09/14...p-nuclear/index.html





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September 14, 2021, 04:05 PM
YooperSigs
Brings to mind a movie: 7 Days in May.


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September 14, 2021, 04:16 PM
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September 14, 2021, 04:19 PM
Il Cattivo
Brings to mind a firing squad: with no blank cartridges. Who in the fuck did this asshole think he was - Nancy Pelosi?

"He regarded it as an oath." Right. I wonder if he mentioned that to the people in the room before asking the question and going around the room - or afterwards.
September 14, 2021, 05:02 PM
nasig
sounds to me like milley was the one out of control....instigated on by the speaker.
September 14, 2021, 05:08 PM
Il Cattivo
Yeah, this does kinda raise questions about Milley's mental state and mental competence, does it not?
September 14, 2021, 05:10 PM
nhtagmember
if true, his next posting needs to be hard labor at Ft. Leavenworth
September 14, 2021, 05:16 PM
Blackmore
quote:
Originally posted by YooperSigs:
Brings to mind a movie: 7 Days in May.


You beat me to it but I thought the same thing...




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September 14, 2021, 05:16 PM
BamaJeepster
quote:
Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
Yeah, this does kinda raise questions about Milley's mental state and mental competence, does it not?


His actions speak for themselves. Mutiny. Treason. Sedition. He should be brought up on charges and tried immediately. This is a death penalty offense.

This is serious and should not be glossed over or ignored.





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September 14, 2021, 05:40 PM
kimber1911
Yes, Death penalty would be appropriate.

Milley was concerned Trump might order a strike that would lead to war with China, yet Milley has no issue with Biden.

Surrendering to the Taliban and turning over $85 Billion in military hardware along with piles of $100 dollar bills was “A OK” with Milley.

To top it off China is in-line to be the next occupant of Bagram Air Field, and the Taliban have biometric data on all those who worked with the U.S. over the past 20 years in Afghanistan.

Yep, Milley was concerned with President Trump, but Dementia Joe is an expert in Foreign Affairs and has all his trust.

Strange that Milley is not concerned about the the Russian’s possibly having one of Hunters lost laptops.
No risk of blackmail to the Bidens with that is there.



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September 14, 2021, 06:15 PM
Ripley
Thinking that Trump would use nukes is a fever dream. Suggesting that Trump would is either a fabrication or self-induced paranoia. Most troubling may be knowing the left always accuses their opponents of what the left itself does. Not saying the left are nuking anyone but I do believe they'd be the most likely to. They hate everyone.




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September 14, 2021, 06:18 PM
spunk639
On Saturday 9/11 I had the honor and privilege of attending the MOH Black Tie Dinner for the MOH Society. The evening and venue was amazing, and to be in the company of true heroes was amazing. Gen. Milley was slated to receive an award from the society, but he had other engagements and did not send an assistant to receive it, nor did the sense in the room seem he was missed at all.
September 14, 2021, 06:39 PM
Balzé Halzé
As described, this is almost an unbelievable act of treason. My goodness.


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September 14, 2021, 06:53 PM
PASig
Haven't you guys figured this out yet?

EVERYTHING these assholes cried that Trump was or was doing…THEY WERE DOING THEMSELVES. Mad

Wahh “Trump is a dictator!”

Biden is literally acting like a dictator now

Wahh “Trump is out of control”

Woke asshole Milley is out of control and committing treason

FFS Red Face


September 14, 2021, 07:08 PM
braillediver
So Milley had more faith in China's top general than he did in the duly elected President of the United States.

What if our enemies had made a move on us during this conflict of command?

Al Haig was out by the end of the day.


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September 14, 2021, 07:18 PM
stickman428
If true death penalty.


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September 14, 2021, 07:48 PM
Hunthelp
So none of the other officers said nothing or reported anything?
They are as guilty as mealy mouth.




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September 14, 2021, 08:07 PM
nukeandpave
Off with his head.
September 14, 2021, 08:07 PM
wcb6092
This can not be allowed to be normal operating procedure. Military coup in a banana republic comes to mind.

I want to see the transcript of Milley's call.


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September 14, 2021, 08:15 PM
Sailor1911
Rename him, Jack D Ripper.




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