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The dems themselves will kill this idea going into the midterms. _________________________ | |||
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Diablo Blanco |
Big difference, TN imposes a 10 cent tax on shotgun shells and metallic cartridges which is used to generate income for the TN Wildlife Resources Fund. It was never intended to be used to make ammunition prohibited. _________________________ "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last” - Winston Churchil | |||
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If you don't think a bill like this is feasible, look no farther than California. I'm not saying that there are not some who have found ways to circumvent the law, but, for the most part ammunition purchases must go to a FFL. Online vendors are very aware of this law and will not send ammunition to you unless you are exempt. This has prompted some vendors to not sell any ammunition OR components to California residents, exempt or not, even though the law is specific only to ammunition. ____________________________________________________________ Money may not buy happiness...but it will certainly buy a better brand of misery A man should acknowledge his losses just as gracefully as he celebrates his victories Remember, in politics it's not who you know...it's what you know about who you know | |||
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Yes, but it establishes the legality of a special tax on ammunition. What it is used for is immaterial, money being fungible. Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus | |||
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| Diablo Blanco |
So does sales tax which we have as well as many other states on ammunition. It is very well established that the government has the right to tax. _________________________ "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last” - Winston Churchil | |||
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So this thread is without merit? That states have the right to levy taxes on goods and services is not in dispute. It is the additional tax assessed against ammunition that is of concern, and is the point of this thread. Once it is accepted that a special tax is ok, then that tax can be raised indiscriminately. Perhaps NYS need only declare it is necessary to fund their wildlife management fund, and then they can raise the tax to whatever level they want. My point is that other states, like TN, that are gun friendly, does it, but it nevertheless greases the cogs of gun control, no matter the states’ stated purpose for the tax. Should the politics of TN ever change, the machinery is already in place to ratchet up prohibitions agains firearms. Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus | |||
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Correct. Taxing ammo is not protected by 2A ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ | |||
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| Diablo Blanco |
Legal trouble would come to any state that made the tax excessive and prohibitive(subjective), but they would have to be challenged by the state or federal judicial branch or sued by a party with interest. It is well established in case law that the government has the authority to tax pretty much everything. It bears repeating, that taxing ammo, machine guns, SBRs, etc. is not protected by the 2A. The precedent was set long before TN started taxing ammo. _________________________ "An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile - hoping it will eat him last” - Winston Churchil | |||
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The sole purpose of this proposed tax is to fund a study. Text from the bill is posted below: "Adds a two- to five-cent excise tax on ammunition, the revenue of which will go to the gun violence research fund." That's 2-5 cents a round. ----------------------- You can't fall off the floor. | |||
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Seems you missed the statement that 100% of the funds that are Approved by a Commissioner will go to this fund. Note the amount Approved is up to the Commissioner. As a result something like 5% of whats collected may go to this "research" and the other 95% to the Commissioner's new mansion and 1/2 acre heated and covered swimming pool. If I were a NY resident I would be talking to the nearest Republican legislator and ask that a Criminal Activity Tax be put forward. Another one might be to total up the cost for imprisonment and present that bill to every parolee as an unforgivable Debt that must be payed. I've stopped counting. | |||
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