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Proposed ammunition tax in NYS

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March 07, 2022, 05:58 PM
chbibc
Proposed ammunition tax in NYS
Another reason for me to dislike the idiots that control this state. And I use the word "dislike" with extreme understatement. Mad

Farging iceholes!

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2021/S8415


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March 07, 2022, 06:05 PM
nhracecraft
New Yorkistan... Roll Eyes


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March 07, 2022, 06:19 PM
egregore
Doesn't this come up with some frequency there? Surely this isn't the first such proposed bill.
March 07, 2022, 06:25 PM
chbibc
quote:
Originally posted by egregore:
Doesn't this come up with some frequency there? Surely this isn't the first such proposed bill.


Probably, but I am not certain. This time though the Dems control the state assembly and senate.


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March 07, 2022, 06:39 PM
egregore
quote:
This time though the Dems control the state assembly and senate.

Again, when haven't they? I'm not that familiar with NY politics. In CA (where I'm from), they have controlled both houses, governor and US senator since the 1990s. Anyway, a proposed bill in one house is far from becoming a law.
March 07, 2022, 06:44 PM
cas
Still some taxpayers left in NY, have to work on driving them out too. If they were smart they'd tax the hell out of moving trucks.
March 07, 2022, 06:49 PM
chbibc
quote:
Originally posted by egregore:

Again, when haven't they? I'm not that familiar with NY politics. In CA (where I'm from), they have controlled both houses, governor and US senator since the 1990s. Anyway, a proposed bill in one house is far from becoming a law.


Republicans controlled the Senate from 2011-2018. Agree that it may be far from becoming a law going through traditional means, but with Dems controlling both houses and the governor's seat we are one emergency decree away from making it happen - much the same way our "SAFE Act" was ramrodded through in 2013.


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March 07, 2022, 07:30 PM
Jimbo Jones
Horrible idea and I hope it doesnt pass but if it did, whats to stop folks from buying it over the interwebs from out of state?

JB


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March 07, 2022, 07:42 PM
TMats
If a poll tax is unconstitutional, then an ammunition tax is too.


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March 07, 2022, 07:45 PM
ElKabong
Come to WV
We have NO sales tax on guns or ammunition !


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March 07, 2022, 08:46 PM
Wheels
quote:
Originally posted by Jimbo Jones:
Horrible idea and I hope it doesnt pass but if it did, whats to stop folks from buying it over the interwebs from out of state?

JB


Because ammo sellers won't ship to New York and haven't for years. The NY SAFE Act requires that ammo can only be shipped to a FFL holder or a retail ammo store.


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March 07, 2022, 08:58 PM
Sigmund
I left NY State in 1986 and have not looked back. Bald1 (who grew up about half an hour north of me) left even earlier.
March 07, 2022, 09:05 PM
LoboGunLeather
Taxes on ammunition sales have been proposed many times over the past couple of decades, both at the federal and state levels. I think BHO proposed something similar.

Transparent attempt to do an end-run around the Second Amendment.


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March 07, 2022, 09:31 PM
RR
quote:
Originally posted by Wheels:
quote:
Originally posted by Jimbo Jones:
Horrible idea and I hope it doesnt pass but if it did, whats to stop folks from buying it over the interwebs from out of state?

JB


Because ammo sellers won't ship to New York and haven't for years. The NY SAFE Act requires that ammo can only be shipped to a FFL holder or a retail ammo store.


No. They never put the infrastructure in place to do background checks on ammo purchases. That’s what it was all about. More than a few very good sized companies will ship ammo to your door in NYS (except NYC) including a large company in CT that ships ammo all the time.
March 07, 2022, 09:43 PM
chbibc
quote:
Originally posted by RR:
No. They never put the infrastructure in place to do background checks on ammo purchases. That’s what it was all about. More than a few very good sized companies will ship ammo to your door in NYS (except NYC) including a large company in CT that ships ammo all the time.


That is correct.


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March 07, 2022, 09:50 PM
dave7378
I buy all of my ammo out of state. I have often thought that the idiots weren't smart enough to go after ammo instead of guns as it isn't protected by 2A. Maybe they are catching up. However there are always ways to circumvent there lunacy. I haven't bought ammo in NY since the passage of the Safe Act.


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March 07, 2022, 10:50 PM
sigcrazy7
Doesn’t the Fed govt have an excise tax on ammunition? I also seem to remember that TN has a special ammo tax.



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March 08, 2022, 04:30 AM
sgalczyn
The bill has sponsors right? So now you have a list - a "to-do" list. Put it to use!


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March 08, 2022, 06:23 AM
Ironmike57
I left(Syracuse) in 1982 and haven't shoveled snow since!

quote:
Originally posted by Sigmund:
I left NY State in 1986 and have not looked back. Bald1 (who grew up about half an hour north of me) left even earlier.

March 08, 2022, 06:27 AM
Graniteguy
What the hell took NY so long?

I am saying that in all seriousness - this is something I thought would have surfaced 3 years ago when the Senate flipped back.