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Apple, Musk, and ChatGPT

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June 11, 2024, 08:26 AM
Pipe Smoker
Apple, Musk, and ChatGPT
“Elon Musk announced Monday that he'll ban Apple devices from his companies' premises if the iPhone creator goes forward with its planned OpenAI integration.

Apple held its annual Worldwide Developer's Conference Monday, and the biggest takeaway was OpenAI's ChatGPT will be paired with Apple's assistant Siri.

In one example shown, Siri recommended that the iPhone user consult ChatGPT for further dinner recipe ideas, flagging all the way that these new answers were coming from OpenAI's chatbot and advising users to 'check important info for mistakes'.

Musk responded to the partnership on X, saying employees and visitors to his companies would 'have to check their Apple devices at the door' where they will be stored in a 'Faraday cage' – a cage that blocks electromagnetic fields. …”

DailyMail article:
https://mol.im/a/13516039



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June 11, 2024, 09:00 AM
gearhounds
I cannot say I blame him.




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June 11, 2024, 09:04 AM
nhtagmember
Waiting for the X phone to come out so I can dump my iPhone.
June 11, 2024, 09:24 AM
Gustofer
quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
Waiting for the X phone to come out so I can dump my iPhone.

I've been an all-things-Apple user for many years, but if they integrate this AI crap into their devices with no way to opt out, I'm done with them.

Musk is absolutely right about the dangers of AI.


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June 11, 2024, 09:39 AM
smlsig
quote:
Originally posted by nhtagmember:
Waiting for the X phone to come out so I can dump my iPhone.


I was reading a discussion on X this morning about he possibility of an X phone and Elon, in his typically obscure way, hinted that it’s coming. Then speculation went down the rabbit hole about the phone being able to connect to Starlink etc…

Tesla has all the pieces to put this together already so I do think it’s inevitable. I will be dumping the Apple universe as soon as it’s available.


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June 11, 2024, 10:00 AM
konata88
Is the AI integration limited to Siri? I don't use Siri and disable it the best I can.

I don't want AI integration in any device. But I don't know what the alternative would be. I hate goog/andr and will never use it.




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June 11, 2024, 10:33 AM
Angus the Kid
Dump Apple phones? Do you think Android is not going to do this also?



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June 11, 2024, 11:17 AM
vulrath
ChatGPT is an absolute nightmare for infosec.

When I worked for an insurance company we had major issues with it because unless you have a local instance like we did you lose control of custody over anything you put into it. Not such a huge deal when I'm using it to figure out what the fuck I did wrong in my algebra homework and how to navigate it next time, but an absolute clusterfuck for the insurance adjuster that just loaded his claimant's HIPAA protected medical records. They have to keep that from getting out at just about any cost, to the point where the computers are so locked down you need to get put in a special group to use an external DVD drive.


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June 11, 2024, 11:31 AM
sjtill
quote:
just loaded his claimant's HIPAA protected medical records


This is certainly true. But HIPAA is a clusterfuck of a law; it has resulted in totally excessive security, locked doors everywhere, snitches, loss of collegiality in conversation with physicians. I'm so glad I'm not practicing any more. HIPAA took a lot of the fun out of medical practice.


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June 11, 2024, 11:38 AM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by Gustofer:

I've been an all-things-Apple user for many years, but if they integrate this AI crap into their devices with no way to opt out, I'm done with them.
I am on an Apple Developer mailing list. Per a recent email from them, there will be a way to turn this off in "Settings."



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June 11, 2024, 12:31 PM
Gustofer
That's reassuring.


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June 11, 2024, 12:42 PM
rduckwor
quote:
Originally posted by sjtill:

HIPAA took a lot of the fun out of medical practice.


It stole ever bit the payers and .gov hadn't already stolen.

RMD




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June 11, 2024, 03:43 PM
Patriot
Apple set new all time high…

$207.16 up 7.26%


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June 12, 2024, 12:20 PM
architect
quote:
Originally posted by konata88:
Is the AI integration limited to Siri? I don't use Siri and disable it the best I can.

I don't want AI integration in any device. But I don't know what the alternative would be. I hate goog/andr and will never use it.
It will be much more than just Siri. However, anyone with an older iDevice (one that has a CPU other than an M4 or A17) will not see AI integration. This represents the overwhelming majority of Apple devices out there.

The "AI premium" will cost at least $1,000 per unit over current/older price points for otherwise equivalent devices. Adoption of forthcoming devices is expected to be brisk, fueling a rapid rise in Apple stock price.

WRT alternatives, I don't see any way of avoiding the AI-in-everything evolution. The people using/abusing AI will have such a significant competitive advantage that it will be "adopt or be marginalized" for most businesses and even individuals. I doubt it is so much a battle of "better" but of "faster." When one party gets 10E5 times as many tries as another does, the winner is obvious.