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Poll About Forum Behavior, Or, Why Haven't We Had Any Epic Trainwrecks?

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April 24, 2025, 12:18 PM
ArtieS
Poll About Forum Behavior, Or, Why Haven't We Had Any Epic Trainwrecks?
In honor of the Traffic Stop Meltdown thread which has brought so much schadenfreude to our happy band, it occurs to me that I haven't witnessed an epic meltdown, wild fight, creative (or brutal) use of teh BANNHAMMER! or otherwise seen a thread go hairing off the rails in quite a long time.<BR><BR>There have been no accusations hurled at High Profile Members, no gay cake, no abused burritos, no Cliffy, and no one has asked how to prevent penetration of the massive .338 Lapua Magnum while guarding the mall. No one has stopped a robbery in progress, cleared their house, shot their sink, and no one lives by the gun. There is no Fried Rice on the menu.<BR><BR>At least we still have the cat pictures thread.<BR><BR>Have we gone soft? Have I been napping and missed something epic?<BR><BR>If nothing else, post your favorite qualifying memory.Why is this?We've all learned to follow the rulesExcellent moderation has thinned the heard or otherwise excluded miscreantsWe are all too old to fight at this pointThere's nothing left worth fighting about9mm is the answer and has settled all disputesOther

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"I vowed to myself to fight against evil more completely and more wholeheartedly than I ever did before. . . . That’s the only way to pay back part of that vast debt, to live up to and try to fulfill that tremendous obligation."

Alfred Hornik, Sunday, December 2, 1945 to his family, on his continuing duty to others for surviving WW II.
April 24, 2025, 12:21 PM
BigSwede
The all knowing and seeing Eagle has thinned the herd



April 24, 2025, 12:29 PM
blindref
Excellent post Artie!
You've dredged up so many great memories from way back.

I think my favorite was gay cake, with Cliffy coming in a close second. So many epic off the rail threads and characters.




Bye for a while, guard the fort. - My Dad


April 24, 2025, 01:28 PM
Herkdriver
9mm is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Razz

But the real answer is Para runs a tight ship.



"I, however, place economy among the first and most important republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared." Thomas Jefferson
April 24, 2025, 01:36 PM
whododat
I have made a couple of errors here and was either corrected or reminded quickly. I appreciated that and have learned to appreciate this forum tremendously.


Because son, it is what you are supposed to do.
April 24, 2025, 01:44 PM
SW_Sig
No batteries being sold
April 24, 2025, 02:35 PM
chellim1
I'm still trying to fit into my unitard.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
April 24, 2025, 03:43 PM
Dzozer
We all bought Glock 19's...



'veritas non verba magistri'
April 24, 2025, 03:45 PM
ammodotcom
We hit peak ridiculous a while ago and now everyone’s just lurking with popcorn, waiting for the next .338 Lapua-in-the-food-court level nonsense to roll in. Either that or we all secretly miss the chaos but are too civilized now to reignite the glorious dumpster fires
April 24, 2025, 05:58 PM
Southern Rebel
Nah, it is none of the above. Fortunately, the law of averages limits the ability to find someone both dumb enough and egotistical enough to both piss off the powers that be and then self-degrade themselves with an epic flame-out!

However, be of good cheer. The year is young and even the law of averages eventually catches up with time.


(I kinda miss Cliffy on account of he made me feel somewhat sober and educated - and that's a tough assignment.)
April 24, 2025, 06:13 PM
bdylan
quote:
Originally posted by Southern Rebel:

(I kinda miss Cliffy on account of he made me feel somewhat sober and educated - and that's a tough assignment.)


Haha.. sober and educated are grossly overestimated.
Moderation has established expectations about behavior here.. members value the place.
April 24, 2025, 06:16 PM
P-220
If people will simply remember, we are guests here, act like it.

Para has done an amazing job of keeping this place like a home.


Niech Zyje P-220

Steve
April 24, 2025, 06:26 PM
RogueJSK
There are a few factors at play here. But I think the balance of it falls on changing social media usage and an aging forum population.

15-20 years ago when the types of incidents mentioned in the OP were more commonplace, forums were still one of (if not the) most popular forms of social media. It was how people engaged with other likeminded people on a topic. Chat rooms had already gone by the wayside, and other forms of social media were just finding their footing or hadn't even been invented yet. So if someone wanted to talk about guns or whatever in that time frame, a discussion forum was likely how they would do it. Thus, people flocked to forums like this one, bringing the bad along with the good. This larger pool of participants meant an increased number of shitposters, trolls, immature meltdowns, etc.

Nowadays, that has changed. Traditional forums are on the decline. And - like it or not - they're not that attractive to the younger crowd. The ones who are less mature and more likely to cause problems. This means the folks still participating in forums today are much more likely to be older and more mature users, who are comfortable with forums because it's what they have used for decades. I would venture to guesstimate that the number of 20-something or even 30-something members of this forum is likely rather small, with most active members being 40+, and the majority probably being 50-60+. Thus most of the active members are older, wiser, more mature, more used to forums, and less likely to go full retard because it's just not worth it (though it still happens occasionally).

Meanwhile the younger, more immature types of shitposters flock to places like Reddit, Discord servers, or the comments section of Instagram/Youtube/Tiktok/etc. instead, and they're having their tantrums/meltdowns/arguments/shenanigans there these days. These newer types of social media are not only what they like and are familiar with, it's a lower bar to entry/participation with way less moderation, compared to joining and navigating an "old fashioned" discussion forum like this.


So, in short... It's because we're old, and the kids these days are going elsewhere to cause problems.
April 24, 2025, 06:31 PM
BB61
Some old memories from your post. Para just dropped the ban hammer on a person trying to sell something so it goes on.

While excellent moderation is the most critical reason, I’ve wondered if we have as many newer (young) members. I also don’t think SIG is the popular “it” platform it was 10-15 years ago. There are too many quality striker fired competitors, their AR is nothing special, the mishandling of the 556, and the constant changing of the MCX has probably reduced interest as well. For example, I haven’t bought a SIG since Mississippi Gal sold me a 522. Since then, I’ve bought multiple HKs and Walthers.


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April 24, 2025, 07:00 PM
YooperSigs
I am an incurable smartass. I try to be on my best behavior when on SF. It helps that just about all the members think alike!


End of Earth: 2 Miles
Upper Peninsula: 4 Miles
April 24, 2025, 07:37 PM
tatortodd
Para's 2015 thread titled, "Donald Trump is a first-rate ass clown, but..." thinned the herd tremendously. Nearly every person on my ignore list either got banned or took their ball and went home. Subsequent annual Trump threads took out a few more.



Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity

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April 24, 2025, 07:49 PM
Chowser
More of us are older and still prefer the forum format and know how to act. Most of the problem people are on FB, instagram, tiktok.



Not minority enough!
April 24, 2025, 07:52 PM
StorminNormin
Now I want fried rice. Thanks a lot!




NRA Benefactor Life Member
April 24, 2025, 07:57 PM
m1009
Para watches out for us all. Big Grin. Love this place. Thanks, Para!
April 24, 2025, 09:45 PM
egregore
quote:
Originally posted by tatortodd:
Para's 2015 thread titled, "Donald Trump is a first-rate ass clown, but..." thinned the herd tremendously. Nearly every person on my ignore list either got banned or took their ball and went home. Subsequent annual Trump threads took out a few more.
I remember a couple of those members. One was a John Kasich supporter. Big Grin