Hello, I have a 10x33 (8 foot tall) shop that I am trying to heat, I have a 2 panel propane heater that has no fan and is not cutting it. I want something that will seriously heat that place up in a hurry. It is well insulated , It is wired for 110 and 220 both.

preferably somethin gplug and play (plug and heat LOL) .
it is my man cave/cigar room and gym.

Electric heating is expensive, gas less, then Propane if you are going electric, then look at a mini split for the shop, cooling in the summer, heating in the winter.

https://www.fujitsugeneral.com...is-a-mini-split.html

I have an AC already, I am looking to use electricity VS propane , I want it to get HOT FAST for a short amount of time, maybe an hour or so

They make Heat Pump Mini Splits, so they can heat up the area, some have smart phone connectivity and you can start it early before you go, or, setup a schedule, if you work there on a pretty constant schedule.

The link I provided shows the heat pumps which would be electric. How fast it would heat the area, depends on how cold you let it get, how hot you want it. They come in different BTU sizes, wall mount, floor mount etc, plenty of options.

The small ceramic and floor heaters probably won't do what you want.

I just bought a portable AC/Heat unit to replace the one that went out. Its a UKOKE, bought at lowes, it does AC/Fan/Dry/Heat, you can run it with your smart phone, a remote or face panel. It will cool my office quiet quickly, haven't used the heat part yet it was on sale for $220, but that's over you can get them online as well.

Yes it has AC, but it also has heat so you get both plus a fan mode for those days where you don't need ac/heat and want air circulation, like when you and a couple of friends fire up some Maduros and fill the room!

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10x33 so 330 sq feet

Why not two of these? They heat pretty well and do not pose a fire hazard like other electric heaters. Oil filled radiator type, rated to heat 150 sq feet:



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I use a simple 240v garage heater for a similar space. works fine. Mounted high on the far wall, has a multi speed fan. There are a zillion of them on the market. Downside is its noisy as its really an industrial type product. Just search on garage heaters and see zillions of them. Get at least 7500w. In my horse barns I have a wall mounted that's the same output, but its an explosion proof product and insanely expensive comparatively ($2K versus $300 for the garage heater)

https://www.tractorsupply.com/...6wj-sXwaAnKjEALw_wcB

I have something like this for my shop. Forced air, uses kerosene, diesel, or fuel oil. It’s a little smelly with diesel, but not terrible. They make different sizes, but something in the $300-400 range would heat your place in 5 minutes or less. Maybe 2 minutes.

EDIT: I just realized you were in Texas, so maybe 1 minute.

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do not pose a fire hazard like other electric heaters.

What? Is this some new magical space heater that doesn't use electricity?

I will bet you $100 if you look on the nameplate of that heater that heater it uses the same 1,500w of power that any space heater uses. If so it poses the exact same chances of electrical fire.

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do not pose a fire hazard like other electric heaters.

What? Is this some new magical space heater that doesn't use electricity?

I will bet you $100 if you look on the nameplate of that heater that heater it uses the same 1,500w of power that any space heater uses. If so it poses the exact same chances of electrical fire.

My point was it doesn’t glow red hot like a resistance type heater and could combust curtains etc. At most it’s warm to the touch, never really hot.

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My point was it doesn’t glow red hot like a resistance type heater and could combust curtains etc. At most it’s warm to the touch, never really hot.

It is a resistance type complete with red hot glowing toaster coils. They’re just buried inside the housing. It’s that the coils are buried inside the housing that makes it less likely to start things on fire.

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My point was it doesn’t glow red hot like a resistance type heater and could combust curtains etc. At most it’s warm to the touch, never really hot.

It is a resistance type complete with red hot glowing toaster coils. They’re just buried inside the housing. It’s that the coils are buried inside the housing that makes it less likely to start things on fire.

The coils are submerged in oil . Not exposed to outside .

My garage/man cave/ grandkids playhouse is 20 x 20 and insulated in the walls. We use an earlier version of this 240 vac heater. I can come home and turn it on and after about 20 min go back out in a tshirt and shorts. When it gets down 32 or below we just set it to the lowest setting and let it run. The natural gas heater on the wall raised the light bill way higher than the electric heater
The element doesn’t glow red or and the housing doesn’t feel real hot. I just set it on a metal shop stool.

Northern tools garage heater

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Originally posted by Skins2881:

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do not pose a fire hazard like other electric heaters.

What? Is this some new magical space heater that doesn't use electricity?

I will bet you $100 if you look on the nameplate of that heater that heater it uses the same 1,500w of power that any space heater uses. If so it poses the exact same chances of electrical fire.

My point was it doesn’t glow red hot like a resistance type heater and could combust curtains etc. At most it’s warm to the touch, never really hot.

That’s the exact kind of heater that my tenants used to burn down one of my houses when they pushed it against a wicker basket. Set that heater on high and it very well does get to combustion temperature.

The idea that those heaters are immune to starting fires is a big fib that somehow everybody believes. I can show you the pics of a big smoldering ash pile that proves just the opposite.

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I am 99% sure Skins' point was these start electrical fires all the time. Not spark ol' Sparky the dog and the curtains on fire.

Golddot-what temperature range are you talking about? Texas is a big state so I don't know what you low temps are at night or how warm you want it to get to.

Here in Michigan my workshop is about 17x18. I have a 10,000btu propane ventless heater. I have it set low to make sure the workshop doesen't drop below the mid 40s. When I turn the heat up it usually is getting comfortable in 30 mins or so. A small fan on a wire screen shelf above the heater will move the heat around.
It could be zero or below here and it doesn't take too long to warm up to 60. Hand tools are sometimes a bit chilly to handle at first.
Remember EVERYTHING in your workshop is cooled down to start out.

holy heaters batman LOL...lots of replies. I do not want gas/oil etc ...i already have those. I need an elec heater that can keep my shop warm when it gets down to 20 or 30 degrees

preferably something that can make it comfortable temps in about 30 mins

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Originally posted by PASig:

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Originally posted by Skins2881:

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do not pose a fire hazard like other electric heaters.

What? Is this some new magical space heater that doesn't use electricity?

I will bet you $100 if you look on the nameplate of that heater that heater it uses the same 1,500w of power that any space heater uses. If so it poses the exact same chances of electrical fire.

My point was it doesn’t glow red hot like a resistance type heater and could combust curtains etc. At most it’s warm to the touch, never really hot.

That’s the exact kind of heater that my tenants used to burn down one of my houses when they pushed it against a wicker basket. Set that heater on high and it very well does get to combustion temperature.

The idea that those heaters are immune to starting fires is a big fib that somehow everybody believes. I can show you the pics of a big smoldering ash pile that proves just the opposite.

Who said they were immune from starting fires ? They are less likely to start a fire since there are no exposed elements . There's no "big fib" .

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At most it’s warm to the touch, never really hot.

Here, let me extract it for you.

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holy heaters batman LOL...lots of replies. I do not want gas/oil etc ...i already have those. I need an elec heater that can keep my shop warm when it gets down to 20 or 30 degrees

preferably something that can make it comfortable temps in about 30 mins

What you are asking for doesn't exist. You will need something like a torpedo propane heater that is 60,000+ BTU. Even a large 240v commercial style forced air resistance heater will take a long time to heat the space, especially if starting from a cold space. A normal plug in space heater is ~5,000 BTU. 40° → 70° in 30 minutes is a giant amount of energy be it electric or gas.

I have a detached small garage/shop that is 16x16. Like you, I have no real way to heat it. I keep a small, portable heater set to 600w (low) with the temp turned all the way down. This keeps the shop at around 35-37, just to keep anything from freezing. When I need to spend time there, I plug in a 80,000btu torpedo heater fired with JP-A (1-K Kerosene) for about ten minutes. I then switch over to my electric salamander heater, which is 10kw, 1-phase, 240v, which is 35,000btu or so.

Those electric salamander heaters are expensive. The one I have runs around $1200 new, but I bought it used, like new, for $100. It was listed as a 3-phase heater, so nobody would buy it, so the seller just kept lowering the price. It was a simple matter to reconfigure it to single phase. There are three heating elements, so you just follow the diagram under the cover to land them on the correct posts for single phase.

I will eventually install a DIY Mr. Cool mini-split on the shop. It will be cheaper to operate by far, and electricity, especially heat pump, is way cheaper than any kind of fossil fuel heat, save maybe plumbed NG from the utility. It will also take up no floor space, and pose way less fire risk.