“Disturbing video footage has emerged showing the aftermath of severe turbulence on a Hawaiian Airlines flight that left 11 passengers severely injured.

The flight from Phoenix to Honolulu on Sunday was carrying many people traveling for the holidays, and hit intense turbulence shortly before landing, sending passengers flying from their seats as the plane nosedived.
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In all, 36 people on board the plane received medical treatment for bumps, bruises, cuts and nausea. Twenty people were taken to hospitals, including 11 in serious condition.

At a press conference on Sunday afternoon, Jon Snook, the Chief Operating Officer of Hawaiian Airlines confirmed that the seatbelt sign was on at the time [apparently ignored by many].

He said it was the 'worst case of turbulence' that he had ever encountered during his seven years with the airline. …”

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Don't take your seatbelt off if the signs on, and even if it's off, leave it on.... Millions of miles flying, some crazy stuff can happen...

And never take off your shoes. Tom Hanks taught me that.

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Originally posted by HRK:
Don't take your seatbelt off if the signs on, and even if it's off, leave it on.... Millions of miles flying, some crazy stuff can happen...

Absolutely. Only disengage it if you must leave your seat, and re-engage it when you sit back down.

YooperSigs, I never take off my shoes. They'd evacuate the plane if I did.

Every one of those safety briefing cards cautions to leave one’s seatbelt fastened even when the sign is not on. And I would bet a nickel that a certain percentage don’t fasten even when the sign comes on in flight. “Why? It’s uncomfortable.”

You telling me with all those people with cell phones out, nobody had the wherewithal to record the actual turbulence?

Entirely possible, I have a friend that was a FA and some years back she got a concussion and compressed some disks bouncing off the cabin ceiling or the overhead bins in severe unexpected turbulence. I believe she said another FA on that flight broke a wrist or ankle or something in the same event.

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Originally posted by HRK:
Don't take your seatbelt off if the signs on, and even if it's off, leave it on.... Millions of miles flying, some crazy stuff can happen...

Yup.

I'm not saying that I keep it tightly cinched across my lap at all times when I'm seated, but I always have it on. I only pull it tight during takeoff and landings. But yeah, shit can happen at any time without warning.

Must've been pretty crazy on there.

As an airline pilot I cringe when I see people board in flip flops. Just wear shoes people, it literally could save your life. And of course leave your seat belt on, at least loosely. If we knew where the turbulence was you wouldn't need a seat belt.

I agree one thousand percent. I cannot understand how people can wear those in public especially when boarding an aircraft. And also from a self defense perspective. All an assailant has to do is stop on your foot and it's over.

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
As an airline pilot I cringe when I see people board in flip flops. Just wear shoes people, it literally could save your life.

I've also heard that the emergency slides can give you some pretty good friction burns if you're not wearing long pants, so I don't fly in shorts. Any truth to that?

-Rob

Having experienced clear air turbulence, I keep shoes on, seat belt on, I count seats both fore and aft to the exits, and sit only in certain rows.

A multi-thousand foot drop in a 727 going DFW to Reno, with a floating crew, drink cart, and passengers makes you paranoid.

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Originally posted by YooperSigs:
And never take off your shoes. Tom Hanks taught me that.

Which movie?

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Originally posted by Oz_Shadow:

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Originally posted by YooperSigs:
And never take off your shoes. Tom Hanks taught me that.

Which movie?

Castaway

Like Sig2340 I keep my belt on and snug and I count the rows forward and aft to the exits. In addition, I try to get seats in the exit rows over the wings so I can have a say in the opening of that escape. I also study the opening procedure of the different doors.
In addition, with regards to clothing, I wear blue jeans and a long sleeve t shirt and Redwing leather boots with non skid soles. I do not wear anything nylon at all. Cotton only.

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Originally posted by Shaql:

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Originally posted by Oz_Shadow:

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Originally posted by YooperSigs:
And never take off your shoes. Tom Hanks taught me that.

Which movie?

Castaway

I learned that one from Bruce Willis.

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I learned that one from Bruce Willis.

Fists with your toes.....

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Originally posted by BurtonRW:

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Originally posted by pedropcola:
As an airline pilot I cringe when I see people board in flip flops. Just wear shoes people, it literally could save your life.

I've also heard that the emergency slides can give you some pretty good friction burns if you're not wearing long pants, so I don't fly in shorts. Any truth to that?

-Rob

I can't speak to the emergency slide portion, but I don't wear shorts (nor recommend to anyone I know) because I want to minimize the risk of burns in the event of a fire.

In college, we studied United Flight 232 in our Aviation Safety class (among many other crashes). I'll never forget what one of the stewardesses, Jan Brown, said. Basically, the fire melted her nylon stockings. Has she not been wearing pants, it would have been much, much worse.
I wear closed toed shoes as well. Last thing I want to do is climb over jagged metal or debris in flip flops or bare feet.

When I was still flying I wore my wool uniform pants very long to make sure they covered my entire leg while sitting down in the cockpit. I also wore wool socks and very sturdy shoes. In the CG we wore nomex flight suits and leather flight boots, and I also made sure my flight suit legs were long enough to cover my full leg while sitting. Paranoid much? yeah maybe.

If I'm flying as a pax I always wear long pants and closed sole shoes. Forgetting the protection for a minute, I just don't want to go skin to skin with a stranger crammed into the seat next to me. Can't understand how people fly around in shorts and wife beaters. Ugh. Cover up please

Rob to your question, I have been down the training slides several times, and an actual slide once (long story) but always with long pants on. I wouldn't worry about friction burns in shorts as you are mostly on your butt at that point, but as I mentioned I would never fly in shorts for the many reasons already mentioned.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
You telling me with all those people with cell phones out, nobody had the wherewithal to record the actual turbulence?

I imagine it only lasted for a few seconds and in that time frame, people were too busy holding on and kissing their asses goodbye.