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I am quite certain that the so-called EMF shielding device is useless, and I cannot understand how it would even do what it purports to do. I certainly do not believe that even if it does block EMFs that this is a benefit. I can't help but wonder if making the claims they make is even legal. If it blocks EMF transmissions as it claims, it should make cell phones, radios, and broadcast television non-functional in her house.

I do not know how you can stop her from buying this, but I am sure that this product is modern-day snake oil. It is a scheme to part kooks from their money.

Unless she is truly incompetent, which is high bar to cross, she is free to piss away her money on foolish schemes and devices.


She doesn’t have one in her house……….yet………she ordered one for herself and one for us. You’re right, I really don’t think there is anything I can do about her pissing away her money. I just worry about having to care for her, and dealing with this nuttiness, as she gets older.
 
Posts: 493 | Location: California | Registered: July 27, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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As we get older, the "Snake Oil" salesmen come calling with various gear and gadgets that will extend our lives, they claim.

When they find out we have much money, the scams increase.

I have been hit on a few times. No cash changed hands but they got the message and moved on.


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Posts: 8228 | Location: Arizona | Registered: August 17, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Just thought of it another way. They say it "shields" which means blocks or jams EMF signals. So that is highly illegal if it actually works. I doubt very seriously this thing does more than hold down papers, but if for some reason it does even barley works below would apply. But I am not a lawyer, or a physicist.

Might be a way to give them a bit of shit if they won't refund 100% of the money and pay for shipping. No one wants the .Gov sniffing their hind ends. Especially if you are scamming people. Just a wild thought.

Don't open it, but put your phone next to it and see if it does anything through the box. Since it works in your house which has walls, the cardboard would be no problem for it supposedly. But as the website says they have a proprietary process to activate it. The damn thing doesn't even plug in. Nothing mentioned in specs about having to plug it in to work. So pretty sure it chunk of concrete with wood and some copper attached to it. But if it does jam your cell signal, then game on for getting FCC involved. All Qi Devices go through an activation process before they are shipped out. This proprietary activation process is one of the many unique features that allow the Qi-Max to generate its protective field.

"Federal law prohibits the operation, marketing, or sale of any type of jamming equipment that interferes with authorized radio communications, including cellular and Personal Communication Services (PCS), police radar, and Global Positioning Systems (GPS).

FCC website - Jammer section.

The Communications Act of 1934
Section 301 - requires persons operating or using radio transmitters to be licensed or authorized under the Commission’s rules (47 U.S.C. § 301).
Section 302(b) - prohibits the manufacture, importation, marketing, sale or operation of signal jammers within the United States (47 U.S.C. § 302a(b)).
Section 333 - prohibits willful or malicious interference with the radio communications of any station licensed or authorized under the Act or operated by the U.S. Government (47 U.S.C. § 333)."



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Homepage has “hydrogens infused water” water with hydrogen bubbles in it???

Isn’t water full of hydrogen?

Their “machine” is only $3195.00!!!


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So your mother basically just bought you a $6,000 wireless charger coil. Yeah, it's complete BS, but you already suspected that.

As much as I admire your mom's skepticism of the establishment we call the traditional medical system, this is just a massive waste of money. Unfortunately, at her age, no court would allow you to take away her right to spend her money as she sees fit. So the best you can do is perhaps steer the curiosity into a productive, less costly direction.
 
Posts: 2047 | Location: Gilbert, AZ | Registered: February 13, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Yeah, after getting over the initial shock of the price of this thing, I did some more reading about it. I’d be curious to find out why this thing only last 8 years. Does it “fill up” with “radiation” or whatever. Roll Eyes Unfortunately my mom totally lacks common sense……….again, the stories I could tell. I might call her later, and try to reason with her, and point out the “inconsistencies” in the company’s claims about this thing……….not sure it will make a dent though.
 
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Homepage has “hydrogens infused water” water with hydrogen bubbles in it???

Isn’t water full of hydrogen?

Their “machine” is only $3195.00!!!


Our local grocery store sells oxygen infused water, for all the tourists suffering from altitude. Lol, wish I'd thought of that product!

Most are probably suffering a hangover, too. Water works wonders to alleviate headaches from both causes.
 
Posts: 9808 | Location: On the mountain off the grid | Registered: February 25, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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reduces harmful radiation without dramatically decreasing signal strength or device connectivity


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All Qi Devices go through an activation process before they are shipped out. This proprietary activation process is one of the many unique features that allow the Qi-Max to generate its protective field.


No- What a crock of shit.


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Refuse delivery.



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“The Qi-Max depolarizes EMF radiation, which reduces EMF exposure, creating a safe area.”

I’ll bet it literally does nothing.
 
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“The Qi-Max depolarizes EMF radiation, which reduces EMF exposure, creating a safe area.”

I’ll bet it literally does nothing.


Well, it does lighten your wallet.


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Posts: 8228 | Location: Arizona | Registered: August 17, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I just read the user manual and it says not to put it in a microwave oven. Seems to me, any self respecting electric field hater wouldn’t have a microwave oven.
 
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Call and elder abuse attorney.


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Posts: 5198 | Location: Boca Raton, FL The Gunshine State | Registered: July 30, 2002Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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I'm calling it Level 10 Grade A snake oil but likely harmless.

My dad died 15 years ago of bladder cancer. Moved to his spine and lungs. 12 month LE but he was able to access a trial chemo program at Stanford Medical Center that extended it 24 months. Hell along the way and he decided he'd had enough traditional medicine and he went full non-medical.

He purchased a Rife machine and then was able to obtain "the secret frequencies" the medical community didn't want regular folks to know about. He did magnets. He did copper. He spent $5k for the umbilical cord of freshly born calf so new cells could be grown in a lab for him.

It was all snake oil but it was hope and that's all people are looking for with this stuff. They are hoping that these things will give them health and hope and while I think it's nuts, you can't take away their idea of hopes and dreams.

So if she wants to believe in this kind of preventative or curative care, more power to her. That stuff isn't hurting her or will have a negative effect on her health so yeah, let her do it.
 
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We had to take my dad's power to buy things away. Sales people prey on the elderly and they swap their info among each other. Once they land a live one, they all swoop in the sell them their junk at super high prices. They use fear and half truths to get them to buy. My dad bought an 11,000.00 solar system for his house. Sounds great until you learn that he will not break even until he is dead and even then by the time that happens the solar panels will have degraded to just a small percentage of efficiency. They took him for a ride. He now has been diagnosed with Alzheimers and we used that status to limit his decision making power.



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Posts: 29943 | Location: Norris Lake, TN | Registered: May 07, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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Your mom is being taken advantage of by snake oil salesmen and scam artists.

Yep.

My sis-in-law, who is an otherwise lovely person, is one of these anti-EMF, anti-5G types. She, too, has spent $$$ on these worthless devices. No amount of argument can dissuade her.

I can't do anything about her and the fact that she's wasted thousands of dollars on this stuff, but she gets the wife worried. That's when I put my foot down and refuse to let her throw away our money too.


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If it blocks EMF transmissions as it claims, it should make cell phones, radios, and broadcast television non-functional in her house.

I'm laughing out loud JHE, because that is the exact point I made to the wife.

She was on the phone with her sister who was (once again) railing about 5G and how we *need* to buy the blocking devices she'd spent $$$ on. I interrupted the wife and told her to ask her sister if she was calling from a landline or cell phone. Her sister says "cell phone". I replied "Well, I guess those 5G blocking devices aren't working very well, are they?" Big Grin


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The website indicates that the company is based in Utah. It was probably twenty years ago that I bought some aircraft parts from a guy in Utah, I paid him promptly, then it was one excuse after another, explaining why he had not shipped the parts.

After almost a year of this I found that Utah has a state department to handle consumer fraud. I contacted them, explained the situation, provided documentation, and they contacted the seller. I don't know what they told him, but I received my parts within 72 hours.

It might be worth your time to contact this agency (I don't recall the contact information but it was easy to find with google). The agency made it clear to me that they don't take fraud lightly.



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You can’t do much about the one your Mom’s buying for herself, but could you return the one she’s gifting you and get that money back? Then put the money in an account Mom can’t touch so you’ve at least stashed those dollars away for a future time when she may need them. Plus, maybe if she finds out you’re just going to return her “gifts” whenever possible, she might stop spending money on future portions of snake oil that would have been sent to you?
 
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*sigh* ... The crap people come up with to scam the unknowledgeable and unwary <smh>

I won't cite my CV to prove this, but, I know just a little >< bit about how RF energy works.

There are two ways to "block" RF signals: Enclose yourself in a Faraday cage or drown them out with a jammer. That's it.

Obviously this thing isn't big enough to place over the entire home, so it's not a giant Faraday cage

So that means that, if it actually does do anything, it's a jammer. Two points: Those are illegal to use, by federal law. And the fines for using them can be quite steep. Secondly: To be effective they have to pour more RF energy into the nearby area than the signals they wish to block--which rather defeats the purpose for which your mother wants the thing.



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