January 29, 2019, 08:40 PM
SigmundBinghamton NY: Trooper wins shootout against SKS
The article isn't clear, but it sounds like the trooper used his handgun only. The link has photos.
I guess the SAFE Act isn't working as planned...
https://www.pressconnects.com/...kirkwood/2708067002/NY state trooper out of hospital following fatal shootout on Route 17 in KirkwoodAnthony Borrelli, Binghamton Press & Sun-Bulletin Published 6:33 a.m. ET Jan. 29, 2019 |
Updated 4:54 p.m. ET Jan. 29, 2019
A New York State trooper is expected to make a full recovery after being wounded in a deadly shootout Monday night with a Windsor man who stole his mother's car.
The suspect, Nicholas Philhower, 30, of Windsor, was pronounced dead at the scene of the encounter on Route 17 in Kirkwood. Trooper Timothy Conklin, a 28-year member of the state police, has since been treated and released from the hospital.
At a news conference Tuesday, state police officials said they're still investigating what motivated Philhower to open fire with an illegal military-style semi-automatic rifle after being stopped along Route 17 East.
Troopers in Binghamton were contacted at 6:09 p.m. by Philhower's mother who reported her son had taken her vehicle without permission and she wanted him arrested, New York State Police Troop C Major William McEvoy said.
Eleven minutes later, Conklin saw the suspect vehicle traveling west on a 65-mile-per-hour stretch of Route 17 West.
McEvoy said investigators believe Philhower noticed the trooper approaching, so he took evasive action by driving through the median near the intersection of Route 17 and Interstate 81, onto Route 17 East.
There was no time for Conklin to launch a formal pursuit, McEvoy said, and Philhower came to a stop shortly after reaching the eastbound Route 17 driving lane.
Philhower then opened fire on Conklin through the rear window of his mother's vehicle.
Conklin returned fire through his patrol vehicle's windshield — it was riddled with bullets from both firearms by the end of the exchange — and then Conklin got out of his vehicle after reloading his duty weapon.
Philhower died after being struck several times — the number of bullets fired during the shootout wasn't disclosed Tuesday.
The exchange of gunfire took place with other motorists nearby and the investigation stalled early evening traffic.McEvoy said Philhower started firing "before Trooper Conklin even knew what was going on."
"At that point in time, he’s pulling over a car that he knows is being used in an unauthorized manner, no reasonable expectation that this would occur," McEvoy said of the trooper's actions. "All of a sudden, his life was in jeopardy. It just came out of nowhere."
Police identified the firearm Philhower used as an SKS military style semi-automatic rifle affixed with a high capacity magazine and a bayonet bolt, making it illegal under the New York State Safe Act.The firearm was also not registered and Philhower did not hold a pistol permit. Police are still investigating where he obtained the weapon.
Conklin was treated Monday night for a minor shrapnel injury to his upper right arm.
With some recovery assistance anticipated, it's expected he will be able to return to duty. McEvoy said it's only with "a little bit of God's luck" that Conklin survived.
State police were aided at the scene by the New York State Department of Transportation, Five Mile Point fighters, the Broome County Office of Emergency Management and Superior Ambulance.
Broome County District Attorney Steve Cornwell also responded to the scene Monday night, and McEvoy said authorities are still interviewing witnesses and executing search warrants on the suspect's vehicle and home.
An autopsy for Philhower was expected to be conducted at Lourdes Hospital in Binghamton to verify the cause of his death.
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January 29, 2019, 08:58 PM
RogueJSKGood shooting, Trooper. Firing through a windshield can do funny things to bullets, but it sounds like the Trooper knew enough about it to still get effective hits.
The academy where I teach recently implemented Vehicle CQB training for all cadets, which involves live firing within, through, and around actual cars. Good training for just this sort of situation.
(Also, I used to live in Binghamton about 30 years ago... Haven't heard that name in quite a while.)
January 29, 2019, 10:19 PM
wcb6092Do they use a 45 GAP Glock?
January 29, 2019, 10:41 PM
BennerP220I’m fairly certain that troops are issued glock gen 4 21 45 acp pistols.
January 29, 2019, 11:01 PM
sjtillThat's an astoundingly successful shoot by the trooper, particularly as it was so unexpected.
January 30, 2019, 12:51 AM
David Leequote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Good shooting, Trooper. Firing through a windshield can do funny things to bullets, but it sounds like the Trooper knew enough about it to still get effective hits.
The academy where I teach recently implemented Vehicle CQB training for all cadets, which involves live firing within, through, and around actual cars. Good training for just this sort of situation.
(Also, I used to live in Binghamton about 30 years ago... Haven't heard that name in quite a while.)
I was employed at Universal Instruments in Binghamton for 6 years, including 2 with the new Canadian owners of their manufacturing plant. My home town was Vestal, just 7 miles west.
January 30, 2019, 03:44 AM
downtownvGood Job Trooper!
Now can any local send me some Speedies????
January 30, 2019, 04:32 AM
RRquote:
Originally posted by BennerP220:
I’m fairly certain that troops are issued glock gen 4 21 45 acp pistols.
You are correct. With Streamlight TLR-1HL lights and Safariland holsters.
January 30, 2019, 04:33 AM
RRquote:
Originally posted by David Lee:
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Good shooting, Trooper. Firing through a windshield can do funny things to bullets, but it sounds like the Trooper knew enough about it to still get effective hits.
The academy where I teach recently implemented Vehicle CQB training for all cadets, which involves live firing within, through, and around actual cars. Good training for just this sort of situation.
(Also, I used to live in Binghamton about 30 years ago... Haven't heard that name in quite a while.)
I was employed at Universal Instruments in Binghamton for 6 years, including 2 with the new Canadian owners of their manufacturing plant. My home town was Vestal, just 7 miles west.
Who new, David Lee is a Bear!
January 30, 2019, 04:49 AM
David Leequote:
Originally posted by downtownv:
Good Job Trooper!
Now can any local send me some Speedies????
On Romas Italian by golly. I believe Sharkies in Binghamton is where they started. Oh they eat good.
January 30, 2019, 04:54 AM
David LeeVestal Golden Bears RR. That same area where this shooting happened, at Kirkwood a number of years back, we lost a Broome County Deputy in a park on Rt 11. Bastards shot him 15 times and drove over him. His picture is in the lobby at the Sherriff Department.
January 30, 2019, 05:58 AM
msfzoeWhat is a "bayonet bolt?"
January 30, 2019, 05:59 AM
hileNYSP at least used to issue Glock 37. Whether they transitioned away from them to Glock 21, I don't know. Regardless, good shooting, Trooper.
January 30, 2019, 06:11 AM
SgtGoldquote:
Originally posted by hile:
NYSP at least used to issue Glock 37. Whether they transitioned away from them to Glock 21, I don't know. Regardless, good shooting, Trooper.
January of 2018. There was nothing wrong with 45 GAP, but it's expensive to buy out of pocket and you're limited to 10 rounds by design.
January 30, 2019, 06:19 AM
xantomquote:
Originally posted by Sigmund:
Police identified the firearm Philhower used as an SKS military style semi-automatic rifle affixed with a high capacity magazine and a bayonet bolt, making it illegal under the New York State Safe Act.

January 30, 2019, 06:21 AM
maximus_flaviusquote:
Originally posted by msfzoe:
What is a "bayonet bolt?"
Is that the shoulder thing that goes up?
January 30, 2019, 06:54 AM
downtownvquote:
Originally posted by David Lee:
quote:
Originally posted by downtownv:
Good Job Trooper!
Now can any local send me some Speedies????
On Romas Italian by golly. I believe Sharkies in Binghamton is where they started. Oh they eat good.
Go Sharkies or Go Home!
January 30, 2019, 07:03 AM
bald1quote:
Originally posted by David Lee:
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Good shooting, Trooper. Firing through a windshield can do funny things to bullets, but it sounds like the Trooper knew enough about it to still get effective hits.
The academy where I teach recently implemented Vehicle CQB training for all cadets, which involves live firing within, through, and around actual cars. Good training for just this sort of situation.
(Also, I used to live in Binghamton about 30 years ago... Haven't heard that name in quite a while.)
I was employed at Universal Instruments in Binghamton for 6 years, including 2 with the new Canadian owners of their manufacturing plant. My home town was Vestal, just 7 miles west.
Damn some more escapees from NY state.

Add yours truly, Sigmund, IronMike, (all from the greater Syracuse area) and others.

January 30, 2019, 07:04 AM
RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by msfzoe:
What is a "bayonet bolt?"
He must have welded a bayonet to the bolt of the rifle, so that he could stab someone every time the bolt reciprocated.
Truly an evil genius.
quote:
Originally posted by bald1:
quote:
Originally posted by David Lee:
quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
(Also, I used to live in Binghamton about 30 years ago... Haven't heard that name in quite a while.)
I was employed at Universal Instruments in Binghamton for 6 years, including 2 with the new Canadian owners of their manufacturing plant. My home town was Vestal, just 7 miles west.
Damn some more escapees from NY state.

Add yours truly, Sigmund, IronMike, (all from the greater Syracuse area) and others.
I was there involuntarily, as a wee lad. My Dad worked for IBM in Endicott for about 4 years, before we moved back to Texas.
January 30, 2019, 07:31 AM
hilequote:
Originally posted by SgtGold:
you're limited to 10 rounds by design.
Seems apropos for NYS.