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| John has a long moustashe  |
1 gallon of industrial strength vinegar (30% stronger) from Lowes, a squirt of dawn and a cup of salt kills everything. | |||
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Imazapyr.
Not when I tried it. Knocked the hell out of everything amazingly fast. But it recovered a few weeks later. | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
Do you use the 30% vinegar straight up? It’s $20 a gallon, which would be $400 to fill my 20 gallon sprayer, without the soap and salt. It’s only $10 of RM43 and 20 gallons of water to fill my sprayer. | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
It is glyphosate mixed with Imazapyr. The combination tackles weeds, grasses, vines, brush and trees. There are several competitors that make this combination as well. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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Here… A gallon of 30% Vinegar cost almost exactly the same as 1 gallon of Roundup 41% concentrate and doesn't make anywhere near as much spray or work anywhere near as well. Plus I buy Roundup, and 2-4D cheaper in 2-1/2 gallon jugs. I couldn't afford to use Vinegar even it if worked as well. I sometimes mix 15 gallons at a time… that would cost me… here… $450 in viniger! A better spray with Roundup would take 30 oz. Of Roundup concentrate. Vinegar does work well on some stuff, some it burns down but doesn’t kill the roots and some stuff just laughs at it. Vinegar is also more poisonous than Roundup according to the LD50 values. Endeavor to persevere. | |||
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Was looking at the reviews on Ortho website. Quite a lot of 1-stars, I’m surprised. 140 5-stars but 92 1-stars. I’ll give Ortho credit for not burying the negative ratings. Q | |||
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Roundup / Glyphosate at any (sane) concentration won't work for months. Weeks at best. It enters the plant through leaves and kills by stopping growth - it breaks down in sunlight. It is not persistent - any weed that sprouts after you spray + a few days will live. We spray roundup within weeks before planting no-till crops. It's popular because it is cheap, not because it is the best at killing weeds (it's good, not great) Pramitol is one I use when I don't want anything to come back - driveways, fences, etc. Crossbow for woody vegetation / vines, then Pramitol to keep them down. Barracade (pre-emergent) grass & landscape to keep weeds from taking over (won't harm established plants, stops seedlings from growing) | |||
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Don't Panic |
Was it tried-and-true Roundup (glyphosate) or the new-formula stuff they now brand as 'Roundup'? Glyphosate worked (and works) great, if you can find it - but you have to look past the large print branding to the small-print ingredients. | |||
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Tenacity. They market it as a selective, systemic herbicide. But I'm telling you in a high enough concentration this shit kills everything and leaves a barren patch for year. There is some type of additive (I forget what it is called) that breaks the surface tension of the liquid and helps it adhere better to the broadleaf weeds that have a waxy coating. You want to get some of that to add to whatever mixture you decide to use. | |||
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Legalize the Constitution |
That’s called a surfactant. Pretty inexpensive. _______________________________________________________ despite them | |||
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A few small drops of dish soap per gallon is enough surfactant if you are using a hand sprayer, but pint/quarts of dedicated surfactant are cheap if you are spraying often. Tenacity isn't a great killer, unless you run high concentration, then you risk killing what you didn't want to kill. It IS good at being easy on Fescue/Bluegrass while stunting a LOT of weeds (crabgrass, broadleaves, etc) & killing some. The generic is cheap enough to spray full rate 2 weeks apart and not kill my wallet. Established weeds are tough for Tenacity to kill, but it will stop them from growing for ~10-14 days. It also has pre-emergent properties. I like it for knocking back clover so my grass gets established better. The clover I have around is tough to kill (it laughs at crossbow & Trimec), so we have come to a truce - feed my grass & I'll let it live. A little tip for Roundup or most spray-on-leaf herbicides - add a little Nitrogen Fertilizer for a better kill (you don't need Phosphorous or Potassium). Having the weed trying to grow will make it more likely to die before the dope breaks down. Ammonium Sulfate (blue crystals) can be had fairly cheap. If your spraying your lawn/yard, it will kick the grass in gear too (unless you are using something like tenacity which will slow it's growth, but it still helps). | |||
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| Thank you Very little  |
Well doggie..... 20 to 20% vinegar, that's what googlefu says.. Might try it out and see what it does... | |||
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You'll also see horticulture Vinegar out there. Smells like Devils Piss. I've seen it up to around %45 - %50 on the high side. It'll kill EVERYTHING it touches. Amazon Link: Linky Train how you intend to Fight Remember - Training is not sparring. Sparring is not fighting. Fighting is not combat. | |||
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Optimistic Cynic |
So, not so good for Italian Dressing then? Has anyone used this high potency vinegar for dissolving plumbing scale or other mineral deposits? Seems like it might work on rust as well, after all, Evapo-Rust is mostly acetic acid (or some other organic acid). | |||
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| As Extraordinary as Everyone Else  |
Got home and found it. This is the best product we’ve found… https://www.siteone.com/en/867...a2DUNP4DWtcLGbCuEagB ------------------ Eddie Our Founding Fathers were men who understood that the right thing is not necessarily the written thing. -kkina | |||
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| Drill Here, Drill Now |
It's just run of the mill 41% glyphosphate. Tractor supply and Ace Hardware likely sell it cheaper than a commercial groundskeeping supplier. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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Firearms Enthusiast |
^^^^^^ yep and use it as directed. So many make the mistake of thinking that adding a little extra or making the mix stronger works better. It doesn’t you are just wasting the product and wasting money. Use it as directed! Tractor Supply usually has the best prices i have found. The 2-1/2 gallon jugs are usually where the savings is at. | |||
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https://www.acehardware.com/de...tion-killers/7299456 I've been using this from Ace, good results on crab grass and other weeds as well. | |||
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