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Automotive Folks: P0597 Code

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March 19, 2025, 07:50 AM
P250UA5
Automotive Folks: P0597 Code
Mini threw this one on Monday.
Cleared it & had it come back next drive.
Kept an eye on temps via BlueDriver on my drive home yesterday & it seems to be holding temps, but guessing I'll be due for a thermostat replacement.

Doesn't look like a straightforward job. The Mini is appropriate as that's the size hands you need to do much under the hood.
Not your typical thermostat job either, looks to be integrated & requires the whole housing to be replaced.




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March 19, 2025, 08:00 AM
Mars_Attacks
Either the electric thermostat is bad or the plug is corroded.


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March 19, 2025, 08:17 AM
P250UA5
Might be worth just replacing both. Under $100 combined, plus new coolant.




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March 19, 2025, 09:05 AM
HRK
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P0597 Code


March 19, 2025, 09:41 AM
P250UA5
Thanks HRK, will watch that in a bit.
Mini forum also said could possibly be resolved by unplug the connector & reconnect. Will try that before spending any $ on it.




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March 19, 2025, 12:09 PM
egregore
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Mini forum also said could possibly be resolved by unplug the connector & reconnect.

Sometimes coolant can seep through the sensor/switch and corrode up the connector. Look for this when you unplug it, also for any signs of coolant wicking its way up the wires.

I didn't care to watch that whole video on replacing the thermostat on this car, but some vehicles make a thermostat replacement absurdly, ridiculously, insanely difficult. The GM/Opel/Saab V6, most commonly found in Saturn L and pre-2004 Vue, is the worst I ever personally encountered.
March 19, 2025, 12:29 PM
P250UA5
Thanks, will check on that as well. Going to try to look at it this afternoon. Definitely no coolant smell under the hood.




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March 19, 2025, 12:41 PM
PASig
I hope it's not expensive!

There's a reason why there are a ton of these on the used market.

I had a supercharged Mini Cooper S and it was a hoot to drive but just waaaay too much TCO for a daily driver for me


March 19, 2025, 12:46 PM
P250UA5
Luckily, mine's a base, non-turbo. A bit less to fuss over. Always liked the supercharged 1st gen models, but have heard a lot of stories about the SC going around 80k & needing replacement.

And it was free, apart from getting it registered & a few parts replaced [battery, convertible top window]. Wish it was a manual, but can't complain, it makes for a fun DD.




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March 19, 2025, 12:50 PM
HRK
Sometimes you get ghost codes, my F150 will throw an occasional code for 02 sensor bank 1 and theres nothing wrong with the stuff.

I'd probably clear it and see if it comes right back.

If you have a lot of miles on it, like you said replacing the T-stat and sensor are just a normal maintenance work, might as well do both while you're in there.
March 19, 2025, 01:50 PM
P250UA5
quote:
Originally posted by HRK:
Sometimes you get ghost codes, my F150 will throw an occasional code for 02 sensor bank 1 and theres nothing wrong with the stuff.

I'd probably clear it and see if it comes right back.

If you have a lot of miles on it, like you said replacing the T-stat and sensor are just a normal maintenance work, might as well do both while you're in there.


I've cleared the code 2-3 times & it comes back after a drive cycle or two.
Had a phantom catalyst code on our Expedition. Cleared & never came back.




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March 30, 2025, 03:17 PM
P250UA5
2 hrs, some colorful language & some scraped up hands/knuckles, and it's done.

Hardest part was getting the spring clip back on the connector to the water pipe to the water pump.

Code is cleared & didn't come back, and no leaks.




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