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Salesforce warns its clients: 'Stop selling military-style rifles, or stop using our software'
May 30, 2019, 03:22 PM
bertoSalesforce warns its clients: 'Stop selling military-style rifles, or stop using our software'
Salesforce has joined the corporate virtue signaling brigade. I'm not sure how much can be done since they're so ingrained in their market and the boycott thing is largely futile.
https://www.sfgate.com/busines...n-fight-13906606.phpMay 30, 2019, 03:39 PM
FredwardDo their contracts enable them to dictate what the customer sells?
May 30, 2019, 03:43 PM
jhe888quote:
Originally posted by Fredward:
Do their contracts enable them to dictate what the customer sells?
Unknown, but they generally don't have to deal with anyone they don't wish to. If there is a contract that doesn't allow them to dictate this, they may be forced to continue for a time, but can decline to renew when it expires.
The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. May 30, 2019, 03:47 PM
DzozerAren't there plenty of software companies/developers that would love to sell them a product to replace SalesForce? Probably cheaper? I'd bet the new company would throw in a conversion too!
It's not as if Salesforce is a behemoth like bookface...
'veritas non verba magistri' May 30, 2019, 03:48 PM
ChicagoSigManI have no problem with this. Let the market decide.
I imagine Gander/Camping world will decide it is worth the one-time cost to switch CRM providers rather than risk a Dick's-style boycott from the 2A community.
If Salesforce doesn't want their money, that's fine by me.
May 30, 2019, 03:54 PM
CQB60Reverse the boycott. Find out who is using salesforce DB & don’t give them your business
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May 30, 2019, 03:59 PM
comet24quote:
Originally posted by CQB60:
Reverse the boycott. Find out who is using salesforce DB & don’t give them your business
I like this idea.
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May 30, 2019, 04:01 PM
Ryanp225quote:
Originally posted by comet24:
quote:
Originally posted by CQB60:
Reverse the boycott. Find out who is using salesforce DB & don’t give them your business
I like this idea.
They have a lot of them listed on their website. Most of which I wouldn't do business with anyways so it's a non-issue for me.
May 30, 2019, 04:11 PM
bigdealSalesforce is a publicly traded company. As such, the media should be interviewing majority shareholders to ask them if such a mandate is appropriate when management is risking 'their' investment capital with such a decision.
Salesforce is not the only CRM program in town, and if they want to risk business relationships with companies the size of Camping World, then I'd suggest their management needs to be replaced because they are not fulfilling their primary responsibility, that being to grow the company while protecting shareholder interests.
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May 30, 2019, 04:15 PM
VoshterkoffI’d tell them “bake the cake.”
May 30, 2019, 04:17 PM
lunchboxPipelinedeals.com. No need for salesforce and their commie politics. We switched to pipeline 4 years ago and I wouldn’t want to switch back and pipe line is way less expensive per user.
May 30, 2019, 04:41 PM
380SwiftMarc Beinhoff is a well known total piece of shit.
This doesn't surprise me at all.
May 30, 2019, 08:46 PM
corsairquote:
Originally posted by Dzozer:
It's not as if Salesforce is a behemoth like bookface...
Yes they are.
Companies such as SAP, IBM, and Oracle have been loosing customers and employees to Salesforce over the last 10-years.
Facebook utilizes Salesforce to run their new Facebook Analytics, its value can't be overstated for businesses that are reliant on marketing.
They just completed building their new corporate offices, now the tallest building in the West.
Founder/Owner Marc Benioff is super-liberal asshole who's been very political since 44's election; like Zuckerburg, he's throwing his money everywhere in San Francisco, with stipulations attached. He's one of the Democrats biggest financiers thus his influence in policy pursuits.
May 30, 2019, 09:01 PM
TigerDorequote:
Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
I have no problem with this. Let the market decide.
I imagine Gander/Camping world will decide it is worth the one-time cost to switch CRM providers rather than risk a Dick's-style boycott from the 2A community.
If Salesforce doesn't want their money, that's fine by me.
Gander/Camping World is already on my boycott list.
https://racingnews.co/2017/08/...rk-martin-nascar-rv/.
May 30, 2019, 09:39 PM
mataiUgh, I've been interviewing with them.
May 30, 2019, 10:33 PM
hunter62Switching companies is not as easy as it sounds. Our company for instance has pretty much everything integrated into SalesForce. From email marketing, quotes, product search, orders, AR, etc. switching would be a nightmare, so I am sure they are paying some expert right now to crunch the numbers.
May 30, 2019, 10:34 PM
Rick Leequote:
Originally posted by matai:
Ugh, I've been interviewing with them.
They pay well, which means you will be able to buy more guns. Make lemonade!
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May 31, 2019, 05:27 AM
Skins2881quote:
Originally posted by jhe888:
quote:
Originally posted by Fredward:
Do their contracts enable them to dictate what the customer sells?
Unknown, but they generally don't have to deal with anyone they don't wish to. If there is a contract that doesn't allow them to dictate this, they may be forced to continue for a time, but can decline to renew when it expires.
This would likely be the reason the article said they had to wait until companies contacts renewed before making the changes to the contracts.
Jesse
Sic Semper Tyrannis May 31, 2019, 10:21 AM
radiomanWTF is "Military-style" anyway?
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May 31, 2019, 10:25 AM
nasigquote:
Originally posted by Voshterkoff:
I’d tell them “bake the cake.”
yes. how is this any different?