To CPD SIG and others in Chitown, be careful out there. It’s going to be a crapfest.

And... it looks like Van Dyke is guilty on all charges except one count of official misconduct.


1 count 1st Degree Murder (guilty of 2nd Degree)

16 counts of aggravated battery


Polling the jury now.

Ouch!

Well, that will probably mean less of a shit show.

Bond revoked, Van Dyke headed to jail.

Sentencing on the 2nd Degree could be probation, to 4 years.

Each count of aggravated battery is a class X felony and carries a mandatory minimum 6 to 30 year possible sentence.

He will be in prison for many years, assuming the appeal process doesn’t go his way.

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Originally posted by striker1:
Bond revoked, Van Dyke headed to jail.

Sentencing on the 2nd Degree could be probation, to 4 years.

Each count of aggravated battery is a class X felony and carries a mandatory minimum 6 to 30 year possible sentence.

He will be in prison for many years, assuming the appeal process doesn’t go his way.

It should be overturned on appeal. Should have been a change a venue at very least. I wonder how many other shooting suspects in Crooke County are charged for each round they shoot?

I get emptying your gun on anyone coming at you with a knife (his defense as I understand it) and would defend that fiercely.

I watched that video I don't know how many times, and, to me, he deserved the verdict.

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Originally posted by jsbcody:

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Originally posted by striker1:
Bond revoked, Van Dyke headed to jail.

Sentencing on the 2nd Degree could be probation, to 4 years.

Each count of aggravated battery is a class X felony and carries a mandatory minimum 6 to 30 year possible sentence.

He will be in prison for many years, assuming the appeal process doesn’t go his way.

It should be overturned on appeal. Should have been a change a venue at very least. I wonder how many other shooting suspects in Crooke County are charged for each round they shoot?

I have NEVER,EVER heard of a defendant charged with a count of agg batt for each time they shot someone. Never. It's called piling on. So I'm thinking he should be able to get at least 14 of those removed if not all.

I'm curious about our Chicago cops take on this. Is this good riddance to bad juju or is this I'm never pulling my gun again?

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Originally posted by ArtieS:
I'm curious about our Chicago cops take on this. Is this good riddance to bad juju or is this I'm never pulling my gun again?

Well initially (until after the election and the release of the video), the shooting was ruled justified by senior police commanders up to the Chief, the Prosecutor, and Mayor Tiny Dancer.

Here is a link to the Second City Cop Blog comment page on the conviction:

Second City Cop Blog Comments

As an avid follower of the Second City Cop Blog (because what happens in Chicago is going to happen in St. Louis soon) the term "fetal" and the phrase "go fetal" has been used quite a bit in the last couple years. I notice a new term in some of the comments: "fetality" which translates to a new state of existence which means zero self initiated activity, show up and write up the reports, don't get out of the car-bad things happen if you get out of the car. Cops are wondering if the Prosecutor will now decide in Officer Involved Shootings not only if the shooting was justified but which rounds were justified and which rounds were not: Shots #1 and #1 were justified, shots #3, #4, and #5 were not so officer is charged with three counts of aggravated assault with a firearm. With the way Prosecutors nationwide have done things to appease the mob, I also can see this happening.

If I was the Defense Attorney, I would have played the LAPD video of where the hostage was shot by officers when suspect started slashing her neck open over and over in front of the jury to show what could have happened. Officers in that case hesitated too long to take action.

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Originally posted by Bulldog7972:

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Originally posted by jsbcody:

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Originally posted by striker1:
Bond revoked, Van Dyke headed to jail.

Sentencing on the 2nd Degree could be probation, to 4 years.

Each count of aggravated battery is a class X felony and carries a mandatory minimum 6 to 30 year possible sentence.

He will be in prison for many years, assuming the appeal process doesn’t go his way.

It should be overturned on appeal. Should have been a change a venue at very least. I wonder how many other shooting suspects in Crooke County are charged for each round they shoot?

I have NEVER,EVER heard of a defendant charged with a count of agg batt for each time they shot someone. Never. It's called piling on. So I'm thinking he should be able to get at least 14 of those removed if not all.

Bulldog7972, correct me if I am wrong but I don't think the POS charged with the murder of Commander Bauer was charged with each round he fired (5-7 from reports I read).

It looks like the dead thug has been staying out of trouble since he was removed from society.

This case was fucked up from beginning to end.

I find it funny that none of the bosses, from the street deputy to the mayor weren't brought up.

In such a high profile case, and the poooooor victim, who was loved soooooo much, where was mom at the trial?
And true, Homie ain't commitin' no mo crimes.

There were multiple decisions that should be grounds for appeal. Hopefully they get granted. (Unless this is all part of a greater scheme, which I don't think these people are smart enough to pull off.)



On the Police side of the house... Whatever your feelings are about if he should have shot or not, how many shots.... The prejudicial nature of the case is overly apparent to us. (Well, the smarter ones at least) so far, the vibe is "only do what you're supposed to do, nothing more."
If you do out and do something, and it goes the wrong way, under the bus you go.

This place is further sliding into abyss. Anyone think Rahm cares? He's gone in a few months, and will have some job working behind the scenes somewhere with the Commies.

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Originally posted by jsbcody:


Bulldog7972, correct me if I am wrong but I don't think the POS charged with the murder of Commander Bauer was charged with each round he fired (5-7 from reports I read).

No, you're correct.
I have old partners and good friends that are Detectives on the Violent Crimes side, they try charging bad-guys the same way, and the Assistant States Attorneys laugh.

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Originally posted by CPD SIG:
...so far, the vibe is "only do what you're supposed to do, nothing more."

And if Van Dyke had done that, stopping at two or three hits, it would have ended then. There's no question that Laquan got what he deserved, and I'm hoping that those of you working the streets back off, do the minimum, avoid getting the attention, and just let the city burn. Maybe the crooked pols will get tossed then.

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Originally posted by jsbcody:

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Originally posted by ArtieS:
I'm curious about our Chicago cops take on this. Is this good riddance to bad juju or is this I'm never pulling my gun again?

Here is a link to the Second City Cop Blog comment page on the conviction:

Second City Cop Blog Comments

Thanks. Very enlightening. Glad I don't live in Chicago.

I still think the judge will give Van Dyke the minimum 6 on only one count.

The charge-per-shot (16) is BS and unprecedented as I understand things.

I dunno about that. Gaughn seemed to be an asshole in this trial from what I saw. I was especially shocked when he read Van Dyke the riot act when he was late for court after attending to his daughter who had received death threats. It seemed to me that he went out of his way to humiliate him in open court and on television. Thugs receive better treatment than Van Dyke did that day.

So will the Crook County prosecutors now be charging the gang bangers with one count Aggravated Battery for every shot they fire?

Time for you CPD guys to get the blu-flu and give the shitbirds a taste of what they are wishing for.

Stay safe CPD officers! Regards 18DAI

As others have stated, this was a railroad job from the get go. There was zero chance of a fair and impartial jury, at least in this city.

I found it interesting that he was declared "not guilty" of official misconduct though.

I too am betting that upon appeal, that the agg battery charges are dropped.

As far as to what other police officers will do, there will no doubt be period of time where most will back off until the dust settles. The consent decree, new use of force issues and the input of radical activists have yet to determined as to how far officers go "fetal". Rahm is finished and is taking his show on the road and whoever takes over will finish the job of driving the leftist utopia called Chicago, into the abyss.