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Looking for some hard facts to reference from my Marine Corps brothers and Sig forum members. I know a guy who is wearing dress blues to his wedding tomorrow. I was active duty for thirteen years. He was in for six. The last a remember one cannot wear blues unless they retired from The Corps. I don’t have my UCMJ handy to reference. 1. Am I wrong? If so that’s good to go. 2. If I’m right can someone send me a reference? 3. I hope I’m wrong becuase it chaps my azz. To me if you didn’t do twenty then you shouldn’t be reaping some of the benefits of that commitment and service. | ||
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semi-reformed sailor |
I don’t know about the marines, but if you are honorable discharged-you can wear the uniform..any uniform Alpha,Bravos or Dress whites..etc "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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Anyone who signed the contract and served honorably can wear whatever the hell he (or she) likes as far as I'm concerned. . | |||
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^^^^^^^^^^^ I agree with the above. Many marines I know cannot fit into their dress blues six months after discharge. | |||
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delicately calloused |
My honorably discharged brother wore his dress Army uniform to my wedding. All of the women there swooned at his presence; fit and sharp as he was. It's not nice to upstage the groom like that. lol You’re a lying dog-faced pony soldier | |||
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Lawyers, Guns and Money |
My son-in-law wore his Navy Dress whites... My daughter could have, but elected the traditional wedding dress. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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always with a hat or sunscreen |
The Executive Director of The Warrior Connection non-profit veterans service group who delivered the eulogy for my son wore his USMC Blues. He served 6.5 years. Certifiable member of the gun toting, septuagenarian, bucket list workin', crazed retiree, bald is beautiful club! USN (RET), COTEP #192 | |||
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Yeah, that M14 video guy... |
According to USAMM (makers of military medals)... https://www.usamm.com/blogs/ne...for-appropriate-wear Marine Corps Uniform Regulations for Former Marines Marine Corps uniform regulations state that retired Marine Corps officers may bear the title and wear the uniform of their retired grade. Similarly, the Marine Corps uniform regulations state “Former Marines not on active duty who served honorably in time of war in the Marine Corps may bear the title, and as authorized by regulations prescribed by the President, wear the uniform of the highest grade held during that war.” So basically, yes, as long as the function is of honorable nature and not part of a political rally or anti-government protest. That said, the Marine Corps uniform regulation clearly states: “The exercise of the rights of freedom of speech and assembly does not include the right to borrow the inherent dignity, prestige, and traditions represented by uniforms of the naval service to lend weight and significance to privately held convictions on public issues. Owner, TonyBen, LLC, Type-07 FFL www.tonybenm14.com (Site under construction). e-mail: tonyben@tonybenm14.com | |||
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The Main Thing Is Not To Get Excited |
LII U.S. Code Title 10 Subtitle A PART II CHAPTER 45 § 772 Quick search by citation: Title Section 10 U.S. Code § 772 - When wearing by persons not on active duty authorized U.S. Code Notes (a) A member of the Army National Guard or the Air National Guard may wear the uniform prescribed for the Army National Guard or the Air National Guard, as the case may be. (b) A member of the Naval Militia may wear the uniform prescribed for the Naval Militia. (c) A retired officer of the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, or Space Force may bear the title and wear the uniform of his retired grade. (d) A person who is discharged honorably or under honorable conditions from the Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, or Space Force may wear his uniform while going from the place of discharge to his home, within three months after his discharge. ********************************** It might be a bit tacky and inappropriate but it isn't stolen valor so I'd mind my own business about it. _______________________ | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
He served honorably and retired (or was discharged) honorably, didn't he? So, what is the big deal?? Q | |||
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blame canada |
Time of war being the key I believe. IMO...worth what everyone is paying for it, If you saw combat in uniform, you earned the right to wear the uniform as long as you wear it appropriately and do not dishonor the uniform or your branch of service. It should also be worn properly, and without bringing public attention to oneself. So in other words...at a private event, like a wedding, perfectly appropriate. At a veterans parade or funeral, perfectly appropriate. On veterans day to get free shit at applebees....NOT appropriate. Walking down the street to make a scene...not appropriate. These things tend to correct themselves... bring ill-repute to your service, and you'll get corrected. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | |||
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The man served 6 years, was honorably discharged and wants to wear his dress blues for his wedding. I dont see how it impacts you one bit. Hedley Lamarr: Wait, wait, wait. I'm unarmed. Bart: Alright, we'll settle this like men, with our fists. Hedley Lamarr: Sorry, I just remembered . . . I am armed. | |||
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blame canada |
Retired doesn't have the same meaning to everyone. Honorably discharged and retired are not the same thing, though someone can be both. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | |||
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blame canada |
Unless he got more medals than you did in half the time or something... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "The trouble with our Liberal friends...is not that they're ignorant, it's just that they know so much that isn't so." Ronald Reagan, 1964 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. It doesn't matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon will just take a shit on the board, strut around knocking over all the pieces and act like it won.. and in some cases it will insult you at the same time." DevlDogs55, 2014 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ www.rikrlandvs.com | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
Either way, what is the big deal in this specific case? Q | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
Absolutely correct. It seems, from what wishful thinker quoted, Underdog's acquaintance would be in violation of U.S. Code. I was honorably discharged from the U.S. Army, but not retired. I would never consider wearing the uniform. He doesn't have the right to wear the uniform. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Staring back from the abyss |
I always understood that if you were honorably discharged that you could wear your Class As. I never had any dress blues so I don't know about that, but I'd guess that the same standard applies...not that I'd care to wear either. ________________________________________________________ "Great danger lies in the notion that we can reason with evil." Doug Patton. | |||
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His Royal Hiney |
Like he can't call himself a marine just because he didn't do twenty? That's one of the benefits of being a marine, isn't it? Once a marine, always a marine. I see the rules posted by others about when veterans can wear their uniform. When I was in, I was told I can wear my uniform after discharge with the limitations of being non-political but ceremonial like a wedding. The guy served. And, as a sailor, I have to say the marine dress blues are pretty sharp and better than any tuxedo he can rent. He's not doing anything dishonorable or fraudulent. If it really chaps your ass, offer to pay his rental tuxedo of his choice then. Be part of the solution to the problem you're seeing. "It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946. | |||
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semi-reformed sailor |
“Veterans and the Marine Corps Uniform Former members of the Marine Corps who served honorably during a declared or undeclared war and whose most recent service was terminated under honorable conditions may wear the uniform in the highest grade held during such war service on the following occasions and when traveling to such occasions: Military funerals, memorial services, weddings, and inaugurals Parades on national or state holidays; or other parades or ceremonies or a patriotic character in which any active or reserve United States military unit is taking part Former Marines who are discharged honorably or under honorable conditions from the Marine Corps (even if it's not during wartime service) may wear their uniform while going from the place of discharge to their home of record, within three months after discharge. Wearing the uniform for any other time or purpose is prohibited.” "Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein “You may beat me, but you will never win.” sigmonkey-2020 “A single round of buckshot to the torso almost always results in an immediate change of behavior.” Chris Baker | |||
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Yeah, that M14 video guy... |
WTF are you talking about? He absolutely DOES have the right to wear it! Who are you to say he didn't earn it? Your opinion is bullshit! Not much sets me off, but you crossed a line there. Get off your fucking high horse asshole! I don't think it's tacky or inappropriate for him to wear the most bad-ass uniform ever created. You can be ashamed of your uniform if want, but us Marines salivate over any opportunity to wear ours (provided we can still fit into them). -Tony (9-year veteran, NOT RETIRED!) Owner, TonyBen, LLC, Type-07 FFL www.tonybenm14.com (Site under construction). e-mail: tonyben@tonybenm14.com | |||
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