SIGforum
USS Samuel B. Roberts DE-413 found, Deepest Shipwreck to date
June 25, 2022, 11:10 AM
corsairUSS Samuel B. Roberts DE-413 found, Deepest Shipwreck to date
I believe there's a few other ships that went down in this epic engagement that have yet to be discovered. Wish a movie could be made of this battle, arguably one of the most intense and heroic in the history of naval warfare.
World's deepest shipwreck is FOUND: WWII US Navy destroyer that went down in the Battle off Samar in the Pacific 77 years ago is discovered over 22,600 feet below the surface quote:
More than 22,600 feet below the surface of the Pacific Ocean lies a WWII US Navy destroyer that has been named the world’s deepest shipwreck.
The USS Destroyer Escort Samuel B. Roberts (DE-413), known as the Sammy B, was located on Wednesday in the Philippine Sea.
The vessel went down during the Battle Off Samar in the Philippine Sea in October 1944 after it was hit by Japanese fire.
The Sammy B, however, was not discovered by scientists, but by Texas billionaire Victor Vescovo, who owns a deep-diving submersible.
On October 15, the Japanese did one last hail Mary to engage Allied navy forces off the coast of the Philippines, which were on their way west and away from the enemy fire line
The Sammy B, however, was one of the last remaining US ships, and is known for its heroic stand against the Japanese, according to BBC.
....
June 25, 2022, 11:20 AM
BBMWWhen the Navy announced they were building a new fleet of frigates, I thought the first one should be named the Samuel B Roberts.
June 25, 2022, 12:02 PM
M1GarandyI read an article about finding the Roberts the other day that noted they were also looking for the Hoel and the Gambier Bay, but were unable to locate either on this expedition as the locations they had for the sinkings were not accurate enough.
June 25, 2022, 12:08 PM
Hound DogWay cool. The Sammy B's is one of the greatest stories of the war.
Fear God and Dread Nought
Admiral of the Fleet Sir Jacky Fisher
June 25, 2022, 12:09 PM
corsairquote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
When the Navy announced they were building a new fleet of frigates, I thought the first one should be named the Samuel B Roberts.
Definitely.
All three of the tin cans that went down should have new ships named in their honor: Roberts, Johnston and Hoel. Johnston's Captain, Cdr Ernest Evans not only received the MoH for this battle but, is the model surface warfare officer, a true warfighter.
June 25, 2022, 12:26 PM
BBMWIn fairness, there was an OHP class frigate named the Samuel B. Roberts. But that's out of service. Short of The Constitution (which is ostensibly still in service, the Sammy B is the most famous frigate like ship ever to serve in the US Navy. There should always be one with that name in service.
quote:
Originally posted by corsair:
quote:
Originally posted by BBMW:
When the Navy announced they were building a new fleet of frigates, I thought the first one should be named the Samuel B Roberts.
Definitely.
All three of the tin cans that went down should have new ships named in their honor: Roberts, Johnston and Hoel. Johnston's Captain, Cdr Ernest Evans not only received the MoH for this battle but, is the model surface warfare officer, a true warfighter.
June 25, 2022, 01:28 PM
83v45magnaquote:
The vessel went down during the Battle Off Samar in the Philippine Sea in October 1944 after it was hit by Japanese fire.
There's an understatement.
The modern world seems to use the word 'hero' to describe an awful lot these days. The 'Taffy 3' DE's were well and true heroes.
I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all. -Ecclesiastes 9:11
...But the king shall rejoice in God; every one that sweareth by Him shall glory, but the mouth of them that speak lies shall be stopped. - Psalm 63:11 [excerpted] June 25, 2022, 03:14 PM
MRMATTRead "the last stand of the tin can sailors" by James D Hornfischer to get a real appreciation of how brave those warriors were - destroyers and destroyer escorts against Japanese cruisers and a battleship. The Americans took the battle to them.
_____________________________
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government." George Washington.
June 25, 2022, 04:06 PM
CoolRich59quote:
Originally posted by MRMATT:
Read "the last stand of the tin can sailors" by James D Hornfischer to get a real appreciation of how brave those warriors were - destroyers and destroyer escorts against Japanese cruisers and a battleship. The Americans took the battle to them.
Agreed. It is an incredible book. Reading what those men did brought me to tears.
_____________________________________________________________________
“One of the common failings among honorable people is a failure to appreciate how thoroughly dishonorable some other people can be, and how dangerous it is to trust them.” – Thomas Sowell
June 25, 2022, 04:10 PM
Flash-LBquote:
Originally posted by MRMATT:
Read "the last stand of the tin can sailors" by James D Hornfischer to get a real appreciation of how brave those warriors were - destroyers and destroyer escorts against Japanese cruisers and a battleship. The Americans took the battle to them.
I read that around 2 months ago. Great read.
June 25, 2022, 11:08 PM
corsairFor those of you interested, give this podcast a listen, approx 45-min. A detailed and enjoyable account of the Battle of Samar through the actions of the USS Johnston. Took 3 hits from the main battery from the battleship Yamato, and continued! Those Fletcher-class destroyers were tough
LCDR Stephenson and the wreck of USS Johnston (DD 557)