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Lead slingin' Parrot Head |
[Note: hyperlinks found at linked website article.] ------------------- The Most Extreme 'Rogue Wave' on Record Was Just Confirmed in The North Pacific CARLY CASSELLA 14 FEBRUARY 2022 In November of 2020, a freak wave came out of the blue, lifting a lonesome buoy off the coast of British Columbia 17.6 meters high (58 feet). The four-story wall of water has now been confirmed as the most extreme rogue wave ever recorded. Such an exceptional event is thought to occur only once every 1,300 years. And unless the buoy had been taken for a ride, we might never have known it even happened. For centuries, rogue waves were considered nothing but nautical folklore. It wasn't until 1995 that myth became fact. On the first day of the new year, a nearly 26-meter-high wave (85 feet) suddenly struck an oil-drilling platform roughly 160 kilometers (100 miles) off the coast of Norway. At the time, the so-called Draupner wave defied all previous models scientists had put together. Since then, dozens more rogue waves have been recorded (some even in lakes), and while the one that surfaced near Ucluelet, Vancouver Island was not the tallest, its relative size compared to the waves around it was unprecedented. Scientists define a rogue wave as any wave more than twice the height of the waves surrounding it. The Draupner wave, for instance, was 25.6 meters tall, while its neighbors were only 12 meters tall. In comparison, the Ucluelet wave was nearly three times the size of its peers. "Proportionally, the Ucluelet wave is likely the most extreme rogue wave ever recorded," says physicist Johannes Gemmrich from the University of Victoria. "Only a few rogue waves in high sea states have been observed directly, and nothing of this magnitude." Today, researchers are still trying to figure out how rogue waves are formed so we can better predict when they will arise. This includes measuring rogue waves in real time and also running models on the way they get whipped up by the wind. The buoy that picked up the Ucluelet wave was placed offshore along with dozens of others by a research institute called MarineLabs in an attempt to learn more about hazards out in the deep. Even when freak waves occur far offshore, they can still destroy marine operations, wind farms, or oil rigs. If they are big enough, they can even put the lives of beachgoers at risk. Luckily, neither Ucluelet nor Draupner caused any severe damage or took any lives, but other rogue waves have. Some ships that went missing in the 1970s, for instance, are now thought to have been sunk by sudden, looming waves. The leftover floating wreckage looks like the work of an immense white cap. Unfortunately, a recent study predicts wave heights in the North Pacific are going to increase with climate change, which suggests the Ucluelet wave may not hold its record for as long as our current predictions suggest. "We are aiming to improve safety and decision-making for marine operations and coastal communities through widespread measurement of the world's coastlines," says MarineLabs CEO Scott Beatty. "Capturing this once-in-a-millennium wave, right in our backyard, is a thrilling indicator of the power of coastal intelligence to transform marine safety." The study was published in Scientific Reports. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rK9aKFI2fA8 | ||
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half-genius, half-wit |
Let's not overlook the fact that while we have 100% mapping of the planet Mars, we have less than 5% mapping of the ocean floor. So basically, we know Sweet Fanny Adams about anything more than very large-scale ocean motion like the well-known currents. | |||
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Seeker of Clarity |
"Today, researchers are still trying to figure out how rogue waves are formed ..." -and then- "Unfortunately, a recent study predicts wave heights in the North Pacific are going to increase with climate change ..." | |||
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Yep. Scientists don't know how much snow a winter storm will bring us tomorrow, but they want us to believe they can accurately predict what effect a temperature increase of 0.15 degrees will have on the planet in twenty years. ------------------------------------------------ "It's hard to imagine a more stupid or dangerous way of making decisions, than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." Thomas Sowell | |||
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Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici |
Rogue waves are the summation of vectors of energy. To claim, with as little comprehensive data as has been amassed, that a wave seen in the last 10-20 years is a once in a millennium event is just silly. _________________________ NRA Endowment Member _________________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." -- C.S. Lewis | |||
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It happens once every 1300 years and it has happened twice in 25 years. We probably have only been using the buoy technology for less than 50. I think they might be way off on that 1300 years.This message has been edited. Last edited by: 1s1k, | |||
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Dumbest fucking leap of logic I’ve ever read. We just started tracking these. It’s the biggest one ever. How fucking dumb do they think we are? And yes, climate change. Edited for more venting. They literally typed largest wave on record. Next sentence we think they happen every 1300 years. As my old professor would say, show me the math. Lol | |||
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teacher of history |
It wasn't the biggest wave, just the most "extreme". | |||
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If the biggest wave in history occurs in the Pacific and the buoy fails to record it, did it really happen? | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
And everything mentioned in that article was made completely meaningless to me with that nonsense blurb at the end. All credibility gone. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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I remember studying these Rogue waves in the early late 90's to 2000's and found usually the people that reported them were laughed at and ridiculed during modern times. However until there were several documented recordings of them off of some oil rig platforms. My father was on a cruise with the USS Shreveport LPD-12 when the bridge and 3 inch thick bridge windows were shattered and several bridge staff were killed and injured by a rogue wave that was estimated at 40 to 50 feet. Interesting how over the years so called myths and legends or so called conspiracy theories are being proved real and true. God Bless !!! "Always legally conceal carry. At the right place and time, one person can make a positive difference." | |||
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I Deal In Lead |
A guy who worked for me in the late 70s built a 33 foot Trimaran in his back yard and ultimately got it in the ocean and was preparing to sail down the California coast to the Panama canal, then through it and on to the Caribbean. He said the one thing that worried him was a Rogue Wave, so people talked about them even back then. | |||
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Hop head |
wait a darn second, you are r0gue,,,, is this your doing? is your super power creating waves in your name? https://chandlersfirearms.com/chesterfield-armament/ | |||
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Lead slingin' Parrot Head |
Just as a point of context, and for no other reason, I'll mention that I sometimes post articles on the forum in which I find the basic premise or story interesting, but don't necessarily agree with the conclusions or the way they were arrived at. Wanting to know more about rogue waves, that blurb about climate change caught my attention as well. I won't instantly dismiss the fact that rogue waves occur, I believe they do and that the reason(s) for them aren't fully understood, but I do question the motives and conclusions of any scientist or group of scientists who toss in climate change as the reason. Unfortunately, this is a trend in science now. I've posted a series of science related articles recently on the forum, and several of them have interjected climate change into them. Take some once respected academic credentials... PhD, MD, Professor of... throw in a field of study such physicist, marine biologist, NASA engineer, MD of viral immunology, etc... and we the reader/ viewer/ listener are supposed to be so very impressed that we instantly accept whatever explanation they offer, without questioning whether their conclusions were reached by actually using the scientific method. We see the same thing with some in the medical/ health field and C-19. Some of these are real problems and phenomenon being explored by real scientists but, at the same time, are also being exploited for a collectively driven narrative. I don't blame you for being skeptical. | |||
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Let me get this straight. A 58 foot wave, that only happens every 1300 years, was eclipsed by a wave in 1995 that measured 85 feet. Perhaps the 85 foot wave wasn’t an extreme wave, so it didn’t count? Riiiiiight. Because, SCIENCE, you Plebes!! Oh, and global warming. Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
To be clear, I'm not skeptical of rogue waves. They are real. I know this as I have experienced them. My point simply is that authors in matters such as these can't help themselves but undermine their entire body of legitimate work by feeling obligated to include this tripe about climate change. Utter nonsense that makes it seem as if he is really just pushing a narrative. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Seeker of Clarity |
Absolutely this! Accumulated energy waves happening to come into phase. I've little doubt that it's entirely seismic and almost completely unrelated to wind. But who knows?.., I could be as wrong as these dumb asses that wrote that article. | |||
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Lead slingin' Parrot Head |
I think the distinction being made is recorded vs. observed and the definition of rogue as a proportional measurement...but yeah, I take your point. It's a poorly conceived poorly written article. I posted it only because I do believe that rogue waves occur, and aren't fully understood. | |||
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I will get by |
Had to fit the 44 billion dollar annual global warming political agenda. --The bigger the lie, the more often it is loudly spoken, the more it is linked to other possibilities... And than let time allow the masses to start believing in it. Do not necessarily attribute someone's nasty or inappropriate actions as intended when it may be explained by ignorance or stupidity. | |||
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Savage I agree the authors tried to take the tack you are describing. However, when the following sentences claim it only happens every 1300 years you start scratching your head. I was an Oceanography major, at least that’s what it says on my diploma, I don’t doubt the existence of these waves at all. I don’t think they were seriously doubted when I was in college back in the 80’s since we talked about the math in Waves and Tides. You don’t get to throw such extreme numbers around and make up new scales and say science all in the same sentence. Lol. So we have the Richter scale, the Fujita, scale, and now the Extreme scale. Oh brother. Their article was designed to read that these things rarely happen but due to climate change they are not only happening more often but they are more extreme! Start the panic! It’s all bullshit media nonsense. These things have always existed and only recently can we get data from monitoring them. Just like climate change data, it’s either nonexistent, made up, or extrapolated from such vague historical data as to be nearly useless. | |||
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