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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:

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You almost certainly won't die.

You will just WISH you were dead. Red cross takes a while. First step is clearing the roads. We had helicopter drops of MREs for awhile. Yummmm No toilets or running water. Heat indexes over 100. Cell phones do not work. Satellite phones work, but who has those.

The good part, Category 3 winds kill all the bugs. Of course after all the rain they are back with a vengence after a week. The smells of rotten food are overwhelming.

It's like the Walking Dead without the Zombies.

Seems fun on TV, but in reality it sucks donkey balls.

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:

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You almost certainly won't die.

You will just WISH you were dead. Red cross takes a while. First step is clearing the roads. We had helicopter drops of MREs for awhile. Yummmm No toilets or running water. Heat indexes over 100. Cell phones do not work. Satellite phones work, but who has those.

This happened to you in Orlando? That's what PAsig is asking about. Not some barrier island with limited access. We can all tell hurricane stories. Ivan swept my neighbor's house off it's foundation, moved it 500 feet and left it on the driveway of my house on Grand Cayman. Both houses were 25 feet above sea level near the Blow Holes. How's that one?

That's not what PAsig asked is it? He's asking about Orlando. There won't be any helos dropping MREs in Orlando. And statellite phones, you win the internet for the day.

I'd be willing to bet Disney will not run out if food. They're stocked up for Labor Day Weekend and nobody will be there.

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WOW. Read my post clearly. His wife has severe denial. Simple as that. It seems you do too. Good luck.

From the NHC:

A prolonged period of storm surge, high winds and rainfall is
possible in portions of Florida into next week, including the
possibility of hurricane-force winds over inland portions of the
Florida peninsula.


I think Orlando is inland. LOL

We've had a few direct hits, 3 in one year Charley went right over, Jeanne and Frances in just a bit south but still over CFL in 2004 and Irma in 2017,

The worst with Charley, lost power for a few days for us, some were out for a week, others a month, getting gas was difficult since you had to first find a station with gas, then hope it had power so the pumps ran and could process payments.

The parks survived with minimal downtime, Disney has it's own city, utilities etc aka Reedy Creek. Universal I would imagine has
good power.

It's not Armageddon or TEOTWAWKI,

Right now most gas stations in CFL have no fuel to sell, they are waiting on trucks to arrive, the governor is working on keeping fuel coming in, same for water, eggs, milk, bread, the panic buyers have been supplanted by the procrastinators and deniers...

Orlando International Airport (MCO) has announced they are suspending all operations at 2am Monday morning. That means they will probably be shutdown for at least 48 hours. And when they resume, it's not like it's business as normal, they have to ramp back up. Getting out of Orlando at the end of next week will mean many people sleeping at airport waiting for a flight as everything ramps back up.

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No power, no AC, no Internet... civilization leaves ...
And when the last of the Pop Tarts and canned corn is gone, the natives turn cannibal.

PASig, check with your hotel. My wife brought up the point that hotels may not let you check in if a storm is coming.

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PASig, check with your hotel. My wife brought up the point that hotels may not let you check in if a storm is coming.

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Yep. Power company workers and emergency personnel have them reserved. Not to mention news media, local officials with beachfront property etc.

PASig,

Whatever happens, good luck. I'm sorry you're in this situation.

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And when the last of the Pop Tarts and canned corn is gone, the natives turn cannibal.

Let the corn races begin!!!!

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Originally posted by trapper189:

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:

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You almost certainly won't die.

You will just WISH you were dead. Red cross takes a while. First step is clearing the roads. We had helicopter drops of MREs for awhile. Yummmm No toilets or running water. Heat indexes over 100. Cell phones do not work. Satellite phones work, but who has those.

This happened to you in Orlando? That's what PAsig is asking about. Not some barrier island with limited access. We can all tell hurricane stories. Ivan swept my neighbor's house off it's foundation, moved it 500 feet and left it on the driveway of my house on Grand Cayman. Both houses were 25 feet above sea level near the Blow Holes. How's that one?

That's not what PAsig asked is it? He's asking about Orlando. There won't be any helos dropping MREs in Orlando. And statellite phones, you win the internet for the day.

I'd be willing to bet Disney will not run out if food. They're stocked up for Labor Day Weekend and nobody will be there.

Yes, it is a very likely scenario for Orlando given that it's a category 4. It might only be knocked down to a CAT 2 or Cat 3 by the time it reaches Orlando or close to it. Heck. Ivan was a Category 1, passed over 100 miles south of Fort Lauderdale and power was out for 10 days-3 weeks, mine was out for 14 days just about everywhere in the county. Debris on the road was so bad, it took 4-5 days just for roads to be decent enough to drive around all over. No navigable roads means no fuel re-supplying or grocery store re-supplying, same goes for no electricity. Power companies can't get to areas to fix the power. Cell phone would barely or rarely work for 5-7 days because the towers weren't getting electricity, same with internet on your phone, and backup generators ran out of fuel. All the while it's over 90F outside and you're just absolutely miserable and everything around you looks like a war zone in some third world shit hole. Let me put it to you this way, after 4 days I was able to make it to a $10 million house that I manage with a full house generator and stayed there for 10 days and it was still miserable. Words do not describe the damage, destruction, and heart ache. The ONLY good thing is just about everyone comes together and helps each other out, strangers or not. Meanwhile Naples got hit directly with a Category 1, and most people didn't have power for 30 days and LOTS of devastation. You'd have to be nuts to fly in for this event. Especially with a bunch of little kids that can't endure. There also is VERY limited medical care.

Here's an old article, power was out for 10 days or more in Orlando when puny category 1 IVAN passed through and Orlando wasn't even hit.

https://www.clickorlando.com/n...-check-who-has-power


The IRONY of this entire thread is the OP specifically asks Florida residents, and every single Florida resident tells him to not come and he's planning on coming anyways. I don't see why they can't simply change their flights,rooms, etc to some other theme park destination (it is summer time) and go there......even Disneyland.

Thanks Jimmy. I went through Katrina on the Mississippi Gulf Coast and still see people with trauma related to the storm. People here experienced Camille the strongest storm to hit the United States with winds approaching 200mph. They thought since they lived through that they would be fine. Many of these people died in their attics when the storm surge of 28 feet came in. A close friend of mine a meterologist nearly drowned in his motel room ten miles inland from the surge. Both bridges were out for two years, and there was nothing open for weeks. We are still in the processs of rebuilding and it has been 14 years.

I love it when people give advice who know little to nothing about these storms. Been through the fringes of a Cat one or something...

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Originally posted by ZSMICHAEL:
Thanks Jimmy. I went through Katrina on the Mississippi Gulf Coast and still see people with trauma related to the storm. People here experienced Camille the strongest storm to hit the United States with winds approaching 200mph. They thought since they lived through that they would be fine. Many of these people died in their attics when the storm surge of 28 feet came in. A close friend of mine a meterologist nearly drowned in his motel room ten miles inland from the surge. Both bridges were out for two years, and there was nothing open for weeks. We are still in the processs of rebuilding and it has been 14 years.

I love it when people give advice who know little to nothing about these storms. Been through the fringes of a Cat one or something...

I went through a CAT 2-3 that hit about 20 miles south of me, Wilma in 2005 and was without power for 21 days. Then Ivan was very surprising at the amount of damage it did being only a CAT 1, the problem was it was so slow that it just sat there. I had 60+ MPH wind at my house from 10 pm on Friday night until 3am Monday morning and it passed 100 miles South of me. I also had to clean up the aftermath of 2 storms that hit 10 miles from my dad's house in Fort Pierce in 2005. This storm is slowing down in movement and already 125 MPH wind, it's going to create a HUGE amount of damage if it hits. And, if it hits the middle of the state, everyone South will suffer because we can't get supplies because the roads will be a mess for a very long time.

I currently have 30 gallons of gas that I paid $3.19 a gallon for this morning for regular because the station had almost no line and had gas, a full vehicle, a 1400/2000 watt generator for the refrigerator or a hot plate, 400+ bottles of water, 3 full propane bottles, 40 lbs of charcoal, 3 large bags of dog food, and enough food for 2-3 weeks, and most of this is just to get me by until the roads are clear enough that I can drive to my customers house with a whole house generator where I can stay until power comes back on at my house.

Yep. Thanks for responding and sharing your experience. Been through Frederic, Elena, Georges and Katrina, all major hurricanes and many smaller ones and tropical storms whose names I cannot remember. They are ALL different. Good luck to you.

PAsig, don't do this. If you go, you are playing Russian roulette with at least 3 bullets in the cylinder.

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At this point, I’m going but under protest. I’ve made it clear to my wife and her family that I think this is a STUPID idea but I’m like a lone voice of reason that no one seems interested in. My wife even suggested I just stay home and if we didn’t have two young children she insists on taking, I’d have told her “fuck you all then, I’m not going” but I’m not having her go down there with our children while I sit home.

I did not plan this so while I hear all you guys about cancelling things on my own, I can’t do that as it’s all out of my hands.

I’ve already told the wife that due to Orlando’s 2am Monday morning shutdown, we probably aren’t getting out on Friday 9/6, and we are going to be caught in a flight backlog.

I just have to hope for the best here in a shitty position I’ve been put in as “the bad guy” trying to ruin a vacation with “my bad attitude”

The Weather Channel just showed their 4 most likely storm tracks and they all seem to hug the coast or remain off the coast and go up.

That’s the best I can hope for. Who knows, maybe we’ll have a crowd-free couple of days at Disney after all!

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At this point, I’m going but under protest. I’ve made it clear to my wife and her family that I think this is a STUPID idea but I’m like a lone voice of reason that no one seems interested in. My wife even suggested I just stay home and if we didn’t have two young children she insists on taking, I’d have told her “fuck you all then, I’m not going” but I’m not having her go down there with our children while I sit home.

I did not plan this so while I hear all you guys about cancelling things on my own, I can’t do that as it’s all out of my hands.

I’ve already told the wife that due to Orlando’s 2am Monday morning shutdown, we probably aren’t getting out on Friday 9/6, and we are going to be caught in a flight backlog.

I just have to hope for the best here in a shitty position I’ve been put in as “the bad guy” trying to ruin a vacation with “my bad attitude”

The Weather Channel just showed their 4 most likely storm tracks and they all seem to hug the coast or remain off the coast and go up.

That’s the best I can hope for. Who knows, maybe we’ll have a crowd-free couple of days at Disney after all!

I doubt it:
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refre...l?tswind120#contents

Are you not your wife's husband? Are you not the man of the house or any part of the decision making process? Are you not a legal guardian of your children? There are times in life when the risk, far outweighs any reward and you need to put your foot down.

I hate to break it to you, but if Orlando airport is shutting down at 2am on Sunday, so will Disney.

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Originally posted by PASig:

....The Weather Channel just showed their 4 most likely storm tracks and they all seem to hug the coast or remain off the coast and go up.

That’s the best I can hope for. Who knows, maybe we’ll have a crowd-free couple of days at Disney after all!

Orlando is only about 40 miles inland from the Atlantic coast. Even if the hurricane remains offshore, you will still get powerful winds inland, including the possibility of tornados being spun off from the hurricane. Disney won't be open. And if it stalls off the coast and sits there, it can do catastrophic damage inland with winds and flooding.

I know we don't have to sell you, but please tell your wife what I have written above. I was born on the Atlantic coast of Florida. I have lived through several hurricanes living near the coast and living 100+ miles inland. A Cat 3-4 is a major event, even 50-100 miles inland.


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I am going to see how we look late Friday night and if I have to I'm going to put my foot down or at least try my best.

If this thing is a Cat 4 and hits the east coast of Florida just east of Orlando, how bad does that affect Orlando?

Go to https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ and click on the "Wind Speed Probabilities", and the "U.S. Rainfall Potential", and the "Arrival Time of Winds" maps for Dorian.

Show those maps to your wife and in-laws. After that, after all the info presented in this thread, after all the warnings given by weather channel and gov't officials...if you still get the hard stare and stomping of feet, then...I am speechless at their bullheadedness, dangerous, and stupid/irresponsible behavior.

I really don't mean to be disrespectful, but I don't know how else to call it. If I were in your shoes, those are the words I'd be using with my wife and in-laws.

According to the National Hurricane Center, between 3:00 UTC and Thursday Orlando has:
80% chance of winds greater than 39mph
42% chance of winds greater than 58mph
18% chance of winds greater than 74mph

Update:
between 9:00 UTC and Thursday Orlando has:

82% chance of winds greater than 39mph
42% chance of winds greater than 58mph
19% chance of winds greater than 74mph

Update 2:
between 21:00 UTC and Thursday Orlando has:

65% chance of winds greater than 39mph
28% chance of winds greater than 58mph
10% chance of winds greater than 74mph

Tuesday is the likely day Orlando will be affected.

LINK

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