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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
We already knew ATF was creating an illegal firearms registry using out-of-business records for licensees, multiple purchase reports (handguns across US; long guns too in the four states with a contiguous land border with Mexico Arizona, California, New Mexico, and Texas), theft records, police trace requests, etc. This is despite the 18 U.S.C. 926(a):
All registration systems, automated or not, paper or digital are specifically prohibited. That ATF and the FBI don't give a fuck about the law we already knew. But Jesu Christo, this is out of hand. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | ||
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quarter MOA visionary |
I say "no shit" . You cannot trust them. | |||
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Big Stack |
Someone (the SAF maybe) should be filing a suit against the ATF. | |||
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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
This is the same ATF and FBI that has stopped processing appeals from persons improperly denied a firearms transfer by NICS. The reason: insufficient staff. Take the people off the illegal gun registry and assign them to doing NICS appeals. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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Non-Miscreant |
See, the OP here is laboring under the misconception that laws apply to everyone. They don't apply to the government or its employees, only the slaves in the general population. The Constitution contains suggestions the government should follow if convenient. If they don't, its OK because they're better than we are. They can do as they please because they're smarter and have better vision. Do any of us hate the government? Anyone know why? Unhappy ammo seeker | |||
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Lead slingin' Parrot Head |
This news is disturbing. I'll be interested in learning what the ATF and FBI responses are...but I'm confused on one point; according the portion in bold above, the government agencies haven't yet responded, but the thread title is "ATF & FBI Admit to Using NICS to Monitor Over 1,000 Law-Abiding Gun Owners" What have they admitted to? | |||
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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
ATF and FBI admitted surveilling lawful gun owners in the first FOIA response. There is a subsequent FOIA to get ATF and FBI to give over more information on why they are violating the gun owners' Fourth Amendment rights. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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Oh stewardess, I speak jive. |
Who'd've thunk it...? | |||
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Member |
JPFO (Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership) has been tracking and reporting the underhanded deeds of the BATF for a while. The information in this section titled “Boot The BATFE!” does not have the latest abuses but it does provide a good insight into their horrible, abusive and egregious track-record. __________ "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal labotomy." | |||
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Member |
500ish people..."exploded" to over 800. Seriously? I understand the potential farther-reaching implications, but we're talking about fewer than one thousand people and we don't know exactly why they're being monitored. I'm going to go ahead and not get all worked up over this. | |||
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Experienced Slacker |
More than 0 bothers me in this matter. Of course we all know our privacy is long gone in just about every way imaginable, but this, among more and more things, used to be what the authorities said would never happen. At least that's how I recall it being sold to us, but I could be wrong. | |||
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Get my pies outta the oven! |
If they’re “admitting” it’s 1,000 then I’ll bet you it’s more like 10,000, maybe 100,000 I put NOTHING past these people. | |||
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Member |
At least half (or more) of the guns in my safe were FTF purchases. I'm starting to think that was a very good idea on my part. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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Member |
Suprised? no Disquested? yes | |||
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For real? |
They're useless. FBI called us last night at around 3am and said stay away from this intersection (the main intersection near our station that we need to go through to get everywhere) with no explanation other than we're working the area and we have vehicles, don't stop our cars. okay... Not minority enough! | |||
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