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After my last experience with Sam’s Club screwing up my progressive lenses three times, almost gave up but a local Eyecare place got perfect reviews. It cost a lot more but my new progressive lenses actually work for me. The fellow that fitted my glasses and said to wear them s as much as possible to get used to them. I wore them all last night and it made my eyes so tired. After a couple hours i could no longer focus. I don’t think I’m used to being able to see out of both eyes at intermediate and close up distances. In the past I’ve found myself either closing one eye to read or just not using one eye out the other because of the disparity of what’s in focus at different distances.

I think it’s going to take a while to get used to this.
 
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I had no trouble with progressive lenses but my father could not ever get used to them. While I took to them right away, it did take a couple of days to settle if and not feel fatigued. I also got prescription sunglasses that are progressive lenses as well which took a few days to figure out in the car. Now I couldn’t imagine life without them. Best of luck on this try.


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I had them for decades before I had LASIK.

Whenever I got a new prescription it took a few days to get used to them.

I also had a head bob to find the right part of the lens to focus through.

This would only last a few days.

Some people never like them and go to multiple pairs of glasses or old fashion line bifocals.
 
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Nice, glad you found someone who can get you fitted up properly, that has to be one of the most important parts of Progressives but once done correctly they make a big difference.
 
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Agreed. You have to wear them for a couple of weeks before your brain gets the message that this is “the way”. I think I read it takes at least seven days for the brain to adjust to training/new methods of visualization. Not switching back to your old specs is important -and good luck- I hope this works out well for you.
I will say as well if you are struggling after 3 to 4 weeks, contact them and let them know. Just give it a couple of weeks of serious eye training before you do so.


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Agreed. You have to wear them for a couple of weeks before your brain gets the message that this is “the way”. I think I read it takes at least seven days for the brain to adjust to training/new methods of visualization. Not switching back to your old specs is important -and good luck- I hope this works out well for you.
I will say as well if you are struggling after 3 to 4 weeks, contact them and let them know. Just give it a couple of weeks of serious eye training before you do so.
I have to switch back to my old prescription because I eat prescription safety glasses at work. He wants me to get used to these before I order the new safety glasses. May take longer because of this.
 
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It makes sense that he wants you to try this pair out before investing in a second pair, but you may be right, it may take a little longer if you’re switching daily. The mind is very interesting in this respect. It likes to cling to old habits (we already know this, I personally never realized it included how we physically visualize things - until progressives came on the market).
It sounds like you’re in excellent hands with someone who genuinely wants this to be a success for the both of you. Make sure to keep him posted so he stays invested in your success- the only reason I suggest this is because typically you have a few months to make a change in the lenses at no charge, but after that hands start getting tied by the laboratory that fabricates them. Too often people wait too long because they don’t want to complain, or they just fall back on their old glasses. In this type of situation it’s important for you to say something sooner (3-4 weeks) rather than later (6 months) because it’s all subjective to your specific needs.
Good luck!


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I wore them driving today. I have to put my chin on my chest to see clearly straight ahead. That’s not normal, is it?
 
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I too find myself closing one eye all the time to read, particularly if I am tired. I started reading about that, and found that a very common eye problem is called convergence insufficiency. It has nothing to do with your vision per se. You can have perfect vision and still have it. It is a muscle issue where one eye doesn’t turn in towards your nose like it should when you are looking at close in things, so your eyes have a problem working together. I am typing with one eye closed as we speak. Try reading up on convergence insufficiency. Part of your problem may not be your glasses. It was only after I got new glasses that didn’t “fix it” that I discovered it.
 
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Progressive lenses….

 
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I wore them driving today. I have to put my chin on my chest to see clearly straight ahead. That’s not normal, is it?


No. An adjustment needs to be made. Remember to be honest about how you hold your head when you read, or if you slouch in the chair, or wear the frames perched on a certain part of your nose. Lots of math calculations in this, but again, it’s all subjective based on your honest input. He’s making assessments and adjustments based on the information you provide. If you have nose pads, that will help with wiggle room for the adjustment..if not, they may need to be remade right now. Sound like seg height may need to be moved.
(Btw not intending to be judgy, it’s just that ppl tend to sit upright and proper, eyes forward when they’re being closely scrutinized).


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I too find myself closing one eye all the time to read, particularly if I am tired. I started reading about that, and found that a very common eye problem is called convergence insufficiency. It has nothing to do with your vision per se. You can have perfect vision and still have it. It is a muscle issue where one eye doesn’t turn in towards your nose like it should when you are looking at close in things, so your eyes have a problem working together. I am typing with one eye closed as we speak. Try reading up on convergence insufficiency. Part of your problem may not be your glasses. It was only after I got new glasses that didn’t “fix it” that I discovered it.
Well, these new lenses actually did fix my one eye reading issue. It’s just that I’m not used to reading with both eyes and they get very tired. I can barely focus on anything after a while until i rest.
 
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I wore them driving today. I have to put my chin on my chest to see clearly straight ahead. That’s not normal, is it?


No. An adjustment needs to be made. Remember to be honest about how you hold your head when you read, or if you slouch in the chair, or wear the frames perched on a certain part of your nose. Lots of math calculations in this, but again, it’s all subjective based on your honest input. He’s making assessments and adjustments based on the information you provide. If you have nose pads, that will help with wiggle room for the adjustment..if not, they may need to be remade right now. Sound like seg height may need to be moved.
(Btw not intending to be judgy, it’s just that ppl tend to sit upright and proper, eyes forward when they’re being closely scrutinized).

He kept pushing the nose pads out until there was no more adjustment. I believe you’re correct, I’m going to need these remade.
 
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Also consider what you are using them for- and what you described to your optician. For example, if you told him you purchased them mostly for reading and you’re using them mostly for driving..that could be a problem. Think of a figure 8 laid onto the lens from top to bottom when you think of a progressive: the top circle of the eight is your distance vision. The tight waist is the mid distance and the bottom is the near distance. The higher quality lens you get, the larger those circles and waist are.
Depending on what you suggested you’d mostly use them for, there are specific lenses that will maximize (for example) the near distance, and minimize the far distance, so one circle (or the waist) may be disproportionately large/small.
Again, making sure you and your optician understand each other is key. He needs to hear what you’re describing, and you need to be as eloquent as you can. It is to your benefit.
I’m sure you’ve seen I don’t always manage to get my point across here on the forum no matter how clear I think I’m being. Same goes with your optician, but you are paying him for the courtesy, so I believe he’ll ask all the right questions and set you up. The fact that you were able to see on your way home is a start, perhaps just moving the seg height down to the appropriate location is all you need. That would be an easy fix, and as mentioned, there’s typically 1 free redo (free to you, not him, he’ll take a small ding from the lab for that).
The thing is to make the redo count, so if there’s anything else, now is the time to mention it to him. Then your safeties will be perfect. Just remember when they measure for seg heights it is individual to each frame, and where it sits on your face.
Final thing: how roomy are your lenses? Did you get a big frame or a tiny serial killer type frame? It can be hard to fit a progressive prescription in a tiny frame- it can be done, but part of the prescription might be cut off (If it’s in a tear drop shape, for example) and it’s a helluva lot harder for the eye to make that rapid transition in such a small space. When I started wearing progressives, I had a big frame, and I never noticed any difference. Then I started moving to smaller frames over time.. training, per se.. never had an issue, but I’ve listened to plenty.


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mine replaced bi-focals.

with my head up, looking straight ahead is in focus, whether driving/watching tv. eyes down for instrument panel/reading.

peripheral vision sucks without turning my head a little.

all in al, i like 'em more than bi-focals.
 
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Also consider what you are using them for- and what you described to your optician. For example, if you told him you purchased them mostly for reading and you’re using them mostly for driving..that could be a problem. Think of a figure 8 laid onto the lens from top to bottom when you think of a progressive: the top circle of the eight is your distance vision. The tight waist is the mid distance and the bottom is the near distance. The higher quality lens you get, the larger those circles and waist are.
Depending on what you suggested you’d mostly use them for, there are specific lenses that will maximize (for example) the near distance, and minimize the far distance, so one circle (or the waist) may be disproportionately large/small.
Again, making sure you and your optician understand each other is key. He needs to hear what you’re describing, and you need to be as eloquent as you can. It is to your benefit.
I’m sure you’ve seen I don’t always manage to get my point across here on the forum no matter how clear I think I’m being. Same goes with your optician, but you are paying him for the courtesy, so I believe he’ll ask all the right questions and set you up. The fact that you were able to see on your way home is a start, perhaps just moving the seg height down to the appropriate location is all you need. That would be an easy fix, and as mentioned, there’s typically 1 free redo (free to you, not him, he’ll take a small ding from the lab for that).
The thing is to make the redo count, so if there’s anything else, now is the time to mention it to him. Then your safeties will be perfect. Just remember when they measure for seg heights it is individual to each frame, and where it sits on your face.
Final thing: how roomy are your lenses? Did you get a big frame or a tiny serial killer type frame? It can be hard to fit a progressive prescription in a tiny frame- it can be done, but part of the prescription might be cut off (If it’s in a tear drop shape, for example) and it’s a helluva lot harder for the eye to make that rapid transition in such a small space. When I started wearing progressives, I had a big frame, and I never noticed any difference. Then I started moving to smaller frames over time.. training, per se.. never had an issue, but I’ve listened to plenty.


At the initial consult after the eye exam (which was comprehensive as opposed to just looking at the little blurry house and “one or two. One or two”) he mentioned that I’m going to want a slightly larger lens than my old glasses. I also mentioned that I want them for driving which is why he suggested the magnetic sunglasses clip. I think it just needs to be about maybe 1mm lower.
 
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Also consider what you are using them for- and what you described to your optician. For example, if you told him you purchased them mostly for reading and you’re using them mostly for driving..that could be a problem. Think of a figure 8 laid onto the lens from top to bottom when you think of a progressive: the top circle of the eight is your distance vision. The tight waist is the mid distance and the bottom is the near distance. The higher quality lens you get, the larger those circles and waist are.
Depending on what you suggested you’d mostly use them for, there are specific lenses that will maximize (for example) the near distance, and minimize the far distance, so one circle (or the waist) may be disproportionately large/small.
Again, making sure you and your optician understand each other is key. He needs to hear what you’re describing, and you need to be as eloquent as you can. It is to your benefit.
I’m sure you’ve seen I don’t always manage to get my point across here on the forum no matter how clear I think I’m being. Same goes with your optician, but you are paying him for the courtesy, so I believe he’ll ask all the right questions and set you up. The fact that you were able to see on your way home is a start, perhaps just moving the seg height down to the appropriate location is all you need. That would be an easy fix, and as mentioned, there’s typically 1 free redo (free to you, not him, he’ll take a small ding from the lab for that).
The thing is to make the redo count, so if there’s anything else, now is the time to mention it to him. Then your safeties will be perfect. Just remember when they measure for seg heights it is individual to each frame, and where it sits on your face.
Final thing: how roomy are your lenses? Did you get a big frame or a tiny serial killer type frame? It can be hard to fit a progressive prescription in a tiny frame- it can be done, but part of the prescription might be cut off (If it’s in a tear drop shape, for example) and it’s a helluva lot harder for the eye to make that rapid transition in such a small space. When I started wearing progressives, I had a big frame, and I never noticed any difference. Then I started moving to smaller frames over time.. training, per se.. never had an issue, but I’ve listened to plenty.


At the initial consult after the eye exam (which was comprehensive as opposed to just looking at the little blurry house and “one or two. One or two”) he mentioned that I’m going to want a slightly larger lens than my old glasses. I also mentioned that I want them for driving which is why he suggested the magnetic sunglasses clip. I think it just needs to be about maybe 1mm lower.


you shouldn't have to tell the optician what the glasses will be used for......if you need glasses, you need glasses!!

it's called life, whether driving, reading, ordering off a menu, reading street signs, using cell phone, etc!!

fwiw:
i got the same frames as bi-focals.....in case a frame gets damaged!!
 
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you shouldn't have to tell the optician what the glasses will be used for......if you need glasses, you need glasses!!

it's called life, whether driving, reading, ordering off a menu, reading street signs, using cell phone, etc!!

fwiw:
i got the same frames as bi-focals.....in case a frame gets damaged!!


I’ll respectfully disagree. Reading a book and driving a car require two different visual distances completely. And if all you’re going to use them for is to read a book, then you’d want a specific type of lens and prescription..if all you’re going to use them for is driving, again a specific type of lens or “distance” prescription, perhaps with a tint to protect from sun. If you work at a computer all day and use your glasses mostly for that, it’s easiest to have what they call a “small environment lens” where mid distance takes up the majority of the space.

If you want to do it all these visual activities in one frame, a generalized progressive lens may be the right choice…but if you use them for something more in one respect than the others, it really helps to let your optician know so that they can help you choose wisely and be cost effective, and they may possibly involve your optometrist so they can make the calculations required for the best RX for your individual needs. This can be a very customized product, tailored to you and made for only you. Make the most of it.

Airbubba, it sounds like you have a pretty straightforward prescription that was pretty easy to fill for you. Me, too, but that’s not the case for everyone.

I’ll step out of this thread now. Sounded like Mark123 was on the right track.


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you shouldn't have to tell the optician what the glasses will be used for......if you need glasses, you need glasses!!

it's called life, whether driving, reading, ordering off a menu, reading street signs, using cell phone, etc!!

fwiw:
i got the same frames as bi-focals.....in case a frame gets damaged!!


I’ll respectfully disagree. Reading a book and driving a car require two different visual distances completely. And if all you’re going to use them for is to read a book, then you’d want a specific type of lens and prescription..if all you’re going to use them for is driving, again a specific type of lens or “distance” prescription, perhaps with a tint to protect from sun. If you work at a computer all day and use your glasses mostly for that, it’s easiest to have what they call a “small environment lens” where mid distance takes up the majority of the space.

If you want to do it all these visual activities in one frame, a generalized progressive lens may be the right choice…but if you use them for something more in one respect than the others, it really helps to let your optician know so that they can help you choose wisely and be cost effective, and they may possibly involve your optometrist so they can make the calculations required for the best RX for your individual needs. This can be a very customized product, tailored to you and made for only you. Make the most of it.

Airbubba, it sounds like you have a pretty straightforward prescription that was pretty easy to fill for you. Me, too, but that’s not the case for everyone.

I’ll step out of this thread now. Sounded like Mark123 was on the right track.


yes it has been ez with both bi-focals/progressives.

thanks for your input.
 
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I did end up returning the glasses to be reground. 5 more weeks later, they came in today and i no longer have to drive with my chin on my chest.

Wow do they make me eyes tired though.
 
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