The Democrats aren’t keen on democracy.

“Oregon's Supreme Court decreed that ten Republican state senators who walked out of a 2023 session in order to stall bills regarding transgender health care, abortion and gun rights bills are barred from running for reelection.

The decision upholds the secretary of state's decision to disqualify the senators from the ballot under a voter-approved measure aimed at stopping such boycotts.

Measure 113, passed by voters in 2022, amended the state constitution to bar lawmakers from reelection if they have more than 10 unexcused absences.

Last year's boycott lasted six weeks — the longest in state history — and paralyzed the legislative session, stalling hundreds of bills.

Five lawmakers sued over the secretary of state's decision — Sens. Tim Knopp, Daniel Bonham, Suzanne Weber, Dennis Linthicum and Lynn Findley. They were among the 10 GOP senators who racked up more than 10 absences.

'We obviously disagree with the Supreme Court's ruling,' said Knopp, the Senate minority leader. 'But more importantly, we are deeply disturbed by the chilling impact this decision will have to crush dissent.'

Democratic Senate President Rob Wagner welcomed the decision. …”

DailyMail article:
https://mol.im/a/13037497

Keep pushing Democrats. You'll start something to regret.

Ignore it.
Run regardless, tell them to go fuck themselves.

Then let them try to send in law enforcement.

I'm not sure the Republicans are in the right on this on.

The voters passed the law and it was well-known by everyone. Not sure the Republicans can feign ignorance. My question is who determines what it means? Obviously it's been interpreted to mean you have to be in your seat to vote on stuff but that's a tight definition.


But it's the usual Dem politics.

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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
Ignore it.
Run regardless, tell them to go fuck themselves.

Then let them try to send in law enforcement.

This is 100% right. Defy the democrat tyrants. See what they do.

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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
Ignore it.
Run regardless, tell them to go fuck themselves.

How do you run if they won't put your name on the ballot?

The decision upholds the secretary of state's decision to disqualify the senators from the ballot under a voter-approved measure aimed at stopping such boycotts.

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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
Ignore it.
Run regardless, tell them to go fuck themselves.

Uhm, if the SoS refuses to put their names on the ballot, then their names won't be on the ballot.

Sure: Perhaps they can be written-in, but write-in candidates rarely fare well in elections.

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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
I'm not sure the Republicans are in the right on this [one].

The voters passed the law ...

Much as it pains me: I'm afraid I have to agree on this one.

I wonder how many in this thread will support Oregon Republicans on this, yet opposed Texas Democrats when they pulled the same stunt a few years back?

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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
I'm not sure the Republicans are in the right on this on.

The voters passed the law and it was well-known by everyone.

Wouldn’t be the first time an unconstitutional initiative was passed. We are not a democracy, our system was designed to prevent tyranny of the majority and this is exactly that. If 51% of the people vote to completely silence the other 49%, then we have an obligation to tell them to stuff it up their ass. That you would say anything otherwise is mind-boggling.

Ironic that the Oregon Democrats walked out in the early 2000's when the Republicans had control of legislature.

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Originally posted by radioman:
Ironic that the Democrats walked out in the early 2000's when the Republicans had control of legislature.

That's (D)ifferent.

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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
I'm not sure the Republicans are in the right on this on.

The voters passed the law and it was well-known by everyone. Not sure the Republicans can feign ignorance. My question is who determines what it means? Obviously it's been interpreted to mean you have to be in your seat to vote on stuff but that's a tight definition.


But it's the usual Dem politics.

Looks like they are SOL, since the law was passed by the voters, one of the things I dislike about "constitutional amendment" votes where specialty groups with enough funding can change the state constitution, we had one anti gun group down in FL trying to get an amendment to ban semi-auto firearms.

Best bet is to run new R candidates in those areas and get the voters to come out against the tyranny of that law and put new R candidates into the Oregon legislature.

I have no problem with prohibiting "stunts".

I get very tried of the shenanigans by the defective f-ups, who seem to think all government is their student government BS they were involved in, in HS and College.

They were useless f%&%^* then, and they're a bunch of useless f#&%* now, but we've given them machine guns, and control over our wallets, for some idiotic reason.

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Measure 113, passed by voters in 2022, amended the state constitution to bar lawmakers from reelection if they have more than 10 unexcused absences.

I'm not sure what the problem is if, in fact, this amendment to the state constitution was passed. Sounds like these members were absent way more that 10 times so, per the 2022 change, they can't run.

What am I missing?

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Originally posted by mojojojo:

What am I missing?

Not much as far as I can tell. Dereliction of duty should disqualify one from holding office…regardless of party.

I didn't like it when the chicken shit dims left Texas in a tantrum during Texas' legislative session (they meet every other year from Jan 14th to June 2nd) a few years back. I wouldn't respect the GOP if they fled Texas in a childish tantrum.

Frankly, the pettiness of politics reminds me of grade school. You walked out in 2000s when we had the majority so we're walking out now that you have the majority. Boo frickin' hoo. Be an adult, do your job, and be a professional about it.

If our kids or grandkids did that tit for tat BS, we'd take time out of busy schedules to punish 'em. Why should voters put up with that from someone less responsible than a kid (i.e. politician)?

It's not like it's hard to find another spineless, narcissistic weasel to stick on the ballot. Granted it's hard for the spineless, narcissistic weasel to find another job with no accountability and ease of graft.

Voter suppression is the new tool of Democrats. Using the state secretary of to keep Republicans off the ballot is their tool sometimes supported by a state supreme court with a majority of Democrats wearing black robes.

The issue here is the Republicans left (walked out) to deny a quorum. This was a necessity as the Dems have a super majority in the Oregon congress.

The walkout prevented some very unconstitutional laws and taxes from being passed.

Those who walked out did we conservatives a favor.

If you prevent these people from running then we need to fire everyone in the Oregon congress, the Sec State, and Governor.

At this time our Oregon government is using our taxpayer funds against us fighting to try and get an unconstitutional law enacted among other issues where the government is working against the people.

The law was passed in 2022. These GOP lawmakers were absent more than 10 times in the 2023 session. That's how I read it, so yeah, they SOL.

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What am I missing?

The exciting part of politics is trying to convince the other side to vote the way your side wants.

The quorum denial gambit was practiced before by the dems when such tactic was not defined as illegal. When the Rs did it, after the D popular vote increased enough to give super majority in the State Legislature. M113 was passed, the Rs gambled and the OSSC called their hand.

I don't know what is next for the Rs. There's a LOT of pending anti bills in coming session.

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Originally posted by 12131:
The law was passed in 2022. These GOP lawmakers were absent more than 10 times in the 2023 session. That's how I read it, so yeah, they SOL.

I’m positive the next time that the Democrats do this, they’ll say the same thing and not fight it. They always govern and respect the “will of the people”.