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Originally posted by joel9507:
Unsearchable, quickly outdated, unscrollable, unzoomable, without layers, that would tear on the fold lines and get soggy in the rain?

I remember those. I think I have some with my buggy whips, somewhere.

And yet when you are out of coverage or your batteries die they work....

When traveling I have 2-3 gps runnning but I always have maps and a compass and protractor.

DeLorme is your old school friend. They have good quality state atlas maps.
And they partner with Garmin.

maps: yes

Gladys an I went to Galesburg , and she absolutely had to use her smart phone seary to get to our destination.

"F" that shit

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Originally posted by tacfoley:

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Originally posted by 4x5:
We're taking a trip to the Oregon coast this summer, so we thought we'd pick up a map at WalMart to get some ideas of places to visit, alternate routes etc. But, apparently, WalMart no longer stocks paper maps ('just use your phone', said the helpful lady working there). Maybe I'm just a dinosaur (actually, I am, nothing 'maybe' about it), but I grew up with real maps, and have a hard time using an app to, for example, find all the beaches in northern Oregon, or find alternate routes form point A to point B.

I guess I'll buy a map on Amazon, before they stop selling them too.

Here in UK we have two map books in each car - and the same in Oregon. GPS is all well and good, but a paper maps works on those occasions when the GPS glitches, or is just not conducive to giving you a broad overview.

I was brought up on paper maps, and used them extensively in my 33-year Army career, too.

Amazing though it might be to some people here, not everybody has an i-Phone or ready access to goople maps whilst driving around in a vehicle.

If there was a 12" square display, like they have in a Tesla, that would be good, but I live in the real world that is uninhabited by $150000 cars and their spiffy displays.

tac

If 10" works for ya, I use an older tablet mounted to my dash, I normally have it running for the end destination and use my phone for short stops and then the car garmin to see where I am am at the moment...like the next exit or gas station. When in the rough I add a Garmin 62s loaded with topo maps.

I am a fan of paper maps - love them. You can learn a lot from paper maps - they're a learning tool

charts are for navigating, but maps are for studying

Paper maps are a must in my truck. A couple of mine are outdated, but they don't move whole towns around very often, now do they?

"Why, just yesterday..." I was rolling across the state and a friend asked where I was. Whipped out a paper map and within seconds I was able to say what towns I was in between. That's just not so easy (or quick) on phone or GPS.

I like using GPS when traveling, but a paper map is going with me, too, for sure.

For offroading, the red map atlases. There are other similar ones, I usually have at least 2 per state.

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Originally posted by EasyFire:
GPS & electronics I use for how to get there. I love paper maps for scale, relationalships and alternate routes.

EasyFire

Yep, me too.

I was a good map reader. But I've switched to GPS in the same way I've switched to Excel and calculators away from slide rules.

I've still got a paper map that I received in the academy in 1970. A lot of AZ roads have changed since then but it's still useful.

Had a "new" GPS die on one road trip. So always keep a paper Rand McNally atlas under the seat in all of our cars.

Those who always keep their cell phones up their butts will eventually encounter dead cell phone reception areas... and gasp... NO WIFI.

The young ones today can't get across the street without their Google maps. We went to a wedding a few years back in Vermont. The wedding party and guests were staying in a hotel in a small village about six miles from the church. The highway between the two locations was clearly marked, turn left here, turn right there. Despite this, all the millenials were furiously tapping away on their devices. I laughed and said, "You know, we have a navigation system, that's worked well for years. It's called signs."

Had I been at Shinniecock for the golf tournament ,
I would have offered poor ole Phil Mickelson an Atlas of the north east U.S. .

Maybe he could have found the golf course
https://www.google.com/search?...i67k1.81.548WQtwhuI0

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Originally posted by dewhorse:

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Originally posted by tacfoley:
Here in UK we have two map books in each car - and the same in Oregon. GPS is all well and good, but a paper maps works on those occasions when the GPS glitches, or is just not conducive to giving you a broad overview.

I was brought up on paper maps, and used them extensively in my 33-year Army career, too.

Amazing though it might be to some people here, not everybody has an i-Phone or ready access to goople maps whilst driving around in a vehicle.

If there was a 12" square display, like they have in a Tesla, that would be good, but I live in the real world that is uninhabited by $150000 cars and their spiffy displays.

tac

If 10" works for ya, I use an older tablet mounted to my dash, I normally have it running for the end destination and use my phone for short stops and then the car garmin to see where I am am at the moment...like the next exit or gas station. When in the rough I add a Garmin 62s loaded with topo maps.

Ah, right. But in order for THAT to work, you have to have a smart phone that will talk to it.

Neither of us have a smart phone...

tac

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Originally posted by dewhorse:

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Originally posted by joel9507:
Unsearchable, quickly outdated, unscrollable, unzoomable, without layers, that would tear on the fold lines and get soggy in the rain?

I remember those. I think I have some with my buggy whips, somewhere.

And yet when you are out of coverage or your batteries die they work....

When traveling I have 2-3 gps runnning but I always have maps and a compass and protractor.

I spent some formative time in the Boy Scouts back in the day, whose motto was not "Be Surprised", so not only are my digital maps pre-downloaded, my batteries are fully charged and, oh, yes, my cell phone not only has great battery life, I have two 10-hr Moto Mods to pop on if needed. So, yeah, belt plus backup belt, plus suspenders, and all without needing to resort to stone knives and bearskins.

That said, if I ever envisioned going off the grid for longer than a couple days, or was in a situation where EMP and/or the GPS satellites going offline would be life-threatening, I do know where my buggywhips are and could trot out the cellulose and ink.

And guys...do not suppose that people who keep up with digital map technology cannot orienteer. Bad, bad assumption. I don't like paper maps in comparison to digital, but have no issues using them.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:
“Real men don’t ask for directions. Real men have maps and know how to use them.”

Couldn't agree with you more!
I'm on my 3rd Rand-McNally atlas since my dad got me one 25 years ago. Always have one in the Jeep.

I'm heading out on vacation in about a week, and will have it within arms reach. My oldest is 11, time for him to earn his keep. He's going to be the Navigator for the trip, it's time for him to learn.

 
Remember when gas stations gave them away, usually in a rack out side. I tried to collect every state. Some stations only had that state's map, plus a few adjoining states. But the occasional station would have a vast collection. I seem to remember preferring the Texaco maps.
 
 

Love paper maps.
AAA are the best.

When I lived in Spain and traveled in Western Europe, I used Michelin maps. They were great!

Our "home base" at the time was Barcelona. It seemed that everybody had a small yellow book, maybe 4" x 6" -- actually it probably had metric dimensions -- about an inch thick (maybe two or three centimeters), that contained detailed street maps, continued from page to page. We kept one in each vehicle and one in the apartment. They were indispensable for navigating around the city.

I prefer paper maps too. I have a set of official state highway maps of the states that I drive most often and try to update them when I can. I use electronic maps, but when you’re more interested in a pleasant, scenic drive than the fastest way to a destination, it can be difficult to get mapquest and google to even show you the alternative routes.