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My parents (in their 60's) we're told about this group and how they can get benefits for wives of active duty combat veterans, which my grandfather served in WWII. Does anybody know about this? They are suggesting she hde assets in order to qualify for benefits. She supposedly had about $12,000 too much to get roughly $1,100 a month for the rest of her life.

If anybody has experiences, please post - either good or bad.

Thx in advance!
 
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No, but suggesting to hide assets to qualify should be enough info to tell them what they need to know.



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So you're asking if she should commit fraud by hiding money to get a taxpayer funded benefit. What do you think how I feel about that? Mad


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Hiding assets is a quick way to lose any benefits gotten through that method, much less any penalties. This also true of any Medicaid clawback efforts we have heard people enduring.

It appears what the OP is asking about is the Aid and Attendance Benefit. My wife successfully waded through the VA process to get this benefit for my Mother In Law, based on her expenses having someone with her 24-7 at home. This benefit is available if you can document expenses either at home or in assisted living/nursing home.

The local VA helped and when the application was sent off, there was a handoff to one of the service orgs(American Legion or VFW) that helped walked the application through. It was a very tedious/thorough application, and were fortunate that my wife had good records(including 1099's to the caregivers) to support the application. It was a several month process, but was worth the effort my wife made.

There was a asset threshold to comply with, but it doesn't include your home's value. My wife started working on the application in anticipation of when my MIL's assets/savings dropped below the limit. If the OP states that they are $12k over the threshold($80K, IIRC) and in a situation requiring live in assistance or in a nursing home, that $12,000 could go very quickly, from our experience.

The local VA was helpful and the additional help that walked the application through was as well. There were no charges for any of this.

Hope this helps.....


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Hiding assets is a quick way to lose any benefits gotten through that method, much less any penalties. This also true of any Medicaid clawback efforts we have heard people enduring.

It appears what the OP is asking about is the Aid and Attendance Benefit. My wife successfully waded through the VA process to get this benefit for my Mother In Law, based on her expenses having someone with her 24-7 at home. This benefit is available if you can document expenses either at home or in assisted living/nursing home.

The local VA helped and when the application was sent off, there was a handoff to one of the service orgs(American Legion or VFW) that helped walked the application through. It was a very tedious/thorough application, and were fortunate that my wife had good records(including 1099's to the caregivers) to support the application. It was a several month process, but was worth the effort my wife made.

There was a asset threshold to comply with, but it doesn't include your home's value. My wife started working on the application in anticipation of when my MIL's assets/savings dropped below the limit. If the OP states that they are $12k over the threshold($80K, IIRC) and in a situation requiring live in assistance or in a nursing home, that $12,000 could go very quickly, from our experience.

The local VA was helpful and the additional help that walked the application through was as well. There were no charges for any of this.

Hope this helps.....

Pretty much hit the nail on the head. Nursing home is $3500 a month, and she could not start the process until she has been under the cap for 6 months. In 6 months she could start the 4-6 month process of applying and getting approved. At that point, say 12 months, she would have less than $38,000 left, in order to obtain $1,100 in monthly benefits. Given she is a Canadian National with no family in Canada, and was married to a US GI we are in this static hell where she already sold her home (which would not have counted against he assets), and will run out of money in less than 24 months.

To be clear, I am against hiding assets, but more interested in dealings with Patriot Angles, and whether you felt like they were worth the $4k they charge for their "service".
 
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To be clear, I am against hiding assets, but more interested in dealings with Patriot Angles, and whether you felt like they were worth the $4k they charge for their "service".

They want $4,000 for their service and they advocate hiding assets? Sounds like a hard pass to me.
 
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Based on my wife's experience, the process is doable without resorting to a fee based service.
Payment of benefits is retroactive to the date of application, as I recall, so it is worth applying for. Personally I don't see that there is $4k of value in such a service....


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Originally posted by 280nosler:
To be clear, I am against hiding assets, but more interested in dealings with Patriot Angles, and whether you felt like they were worth the $4k they charge for their "service".

They want $4,000 for their service and they advocate hiding assets? Sounds like a hard pass to me.


How much do you want to bet that they will "assist with hiding the assets?" Meaning that they end up the assets and you're SOL? Sound like SCAMMERS to me.

Check out this link:

http://www.aarp.org/money/scam...ets-vets-wa1889.html



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Originally posted by Jimbo54:
So you're asking if she should commit fraud by hiding money to get a taxpayer funded benefit. What do you think how I feel about that? Mad


I believe he's asking about Patriot Angels, their reputation and the fact that group has suggesting she hide assets to qualify, as well as pay them a tidy sum to assist her.

From what I read he never said he was looking for an angle to skirt the rules or deceive anyone...

To the OP, I would check with the agency that provides the benefits as suggested and eliminate the PA from the equation.
 
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