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Originally posted by RogB:

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Originally posted by henryaz:
 
I would add Senator Joseph McCarthy.
 

McCarthy was right to warn about the Communist influence in both Hollywood and parts of the government. He had a nasty disposition which shouldn't detract from the truth of his allegations.

Well, it didn’t detract from the truth of those allegations which happened to be true but those likely were very few, if any.

Who were the communists McCarthy outed, and proved?

It seems to me that McCarthy engaged in accusation, innuendo, and allegation but not so much proof. Moreover, his antics spooled up all sorts of uberPatriots across the country, very nearly turning us into a goose stepping saluting bunch of fascists.

Thankfully, McCarthy was a loathsome alcoholic whose excessive mean spiritedness eventually became apparent, disgust overcame fear of being accused and he was condemned by a Senate vote 65-22.

The Wikipedia article https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism gives a fairly full account of this peculiar phenomenon.

Too many to choose from. Top 50 would be more realistic.
For example, no mention of Joe Kennedy Sr.?
That would cover the whole family.

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No mention of the people who opened the floodgates of China crap imports and trade deficits?

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Originally posted by konata88:
No mention of the people who opened the floodgates of China crap imports and trade deficits?

Bill Clinton had a lot to do with that.

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Originally posted by rusbro:
Rick Astley

That list should include FDR, Wilson and LBJ.

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George Soros – Jewish former Nazi collaborator in his native Hungary who as a self-made billionaire has poured hundreds of millions of dollars into left wing groups and causes. The damage he has caused is difficult to measure, but it’s certainly large. He has funded much of the effort to kill the Trump presidency.

I am not of fan of Soros, however what proof is there that he was a Nazi collaborator in Hungary? He would have been 15 at the time.

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Originally posted by henryaz:
 
I would add Senator Joseph McCarthy.
 

Why? Are you aware that his allegations were later proven to be true?

Ted Kennedy's story should also include how he asked the Russians to interfere in our elections.

- I'd remove Hendrix and Joplin. Musicians have brief but, limited influence on social/political landscape. If drug use acceptance, promotion and counter-culture movement is the issue, than the finger can be pointed at Owsley Stanley, Allen Ginsberg and Abbie Hoffman.

- Add, Noam Choamsky- intellectual hero & mouthpiece for the socio-anarchist movements. Pretty much every suedo-intellectual leftist over the last 50-60 years can be traced back to Chomasky's influence.

- Any number of Hollywood-media executives from the last 50-years: Harvey Weinstein (Miramax/Democrat super fundraiser and media maker), Steve Burke (NBC/Comcast), Les Moonves (CBS), etc. for utilizing their properties to be liberal/democrat political vehicles, allowing leftist dogma to dominate their business while simultaneously allowing a reverse-Red Scare environment to flourish. Social stereotypes both in the US and worldwide, can be largely attributed to what American media puts out and promotes.


McCarthy was a bumbling ass, the Colin Kaepernick of his era. While I have no doubt there was a red streak of socialism running through various parts of American industry and politics, as JALLEN pointed-out, McCarthy was his own worst enemy and his ham-fisted hearings were a reveal of his surly disposition.

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Originally posted by zoom6zoom:
Ted Kennedy's story should also include how he asked the Russians to interfere in our elections.

I remember that.

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Originally posted by Lt CHEG:
FDR was around 80 years ago. Any list without him is incomplete. FDR and Woodrow Wilson laid the ground work for all the socialist ideals that now threaten this country. Also FDR duped America into the biggest Ponzi scheme in the history of the world.

^^^^^ My parents certainly thought so.

flashguy

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Originally posted by Lt CHEG:
...FDR duped America into the biggest Ponzi scheme in the history of the world.

^^ This! ^^

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Originally posted by konata88:
No mention of the people who opened the floodgates of China crap imports and trade deficits?

That'd be Richard Nixon (although he probably didn't know it at the time). Or...perhaps he did. He was a pretty shady character.

Cry'in Chuck should make the list.

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Originally posted by Silent:
FDR #1

A quote from the late Jeff Cooper:

"Socialism, introduced to the U.S. By Franklin Roosevelt, preaches the abandonment of self-reliance. Big Brother will take care of you. Do not fight back, because your well-being is a state concern, not a private matter.

Hence the evisceration of the American geist."

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Roosevelt's policies resulted in the U.S. Being the last developed country to recover from the Great Depression. Recently released records show that the administration knew in general of Japan's plans to attack America (read: Day of Deceit). The Roosevelt administration knew of NAZI plans for the Jews of Europe - and other undesirables - as early as the mid 1930's but refused their entry into the country despite unfilled immigration numbers (read: While Six Million Died). Roosevelt tried to set fire to the constitutionally-based system of checks and balances through his attempt at "court packing." The administrations cover up of the 1943 Katyn Woods massacre in which almost 5,000 politically undesirable (at least to Stalin) Polish Officers were killed and placed in mass graves by the Soviets and Roosevelts acquiesce to their take over of Eastern Europe are but a few of his actions which make him a deserving member of this list of shame and dishonor.

In my view, FDR stands alone as the modern "political parent" of so many of the contemporary left-wing political leaders.

Silent

Excellent post, sir.

fdr was referred angrily to as "that man" and its name could not be spoken in my great grandfather's house. my mother's godfather is Adm. Halsey and when he learnt that fdr knew beforehand of the attack on Pearl Harbor, they had to spend the rest of the war keeping him away from "that man," lest the good Admiral kill him with his bare hands. Such is the history passed down in my family.

It is long past time for the "cold anger" we have long borne to awaken to a rage that will sweep away the leftist hoard.

That being said, i thank God every day for *our* President.

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Originally posted by .38supersig:

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Originally posted by Lt CHEG:
...FDR duped America into the biggest Ponzi scheme in the history of the world.

^^ This! ^^

The evil men do lives after them . . . .so let it be with FDR. When the social security ponzi scheme collapses . . . . .

There are several Supreme Court Justices that deserve to be on the list.

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Originally posted by konata88:
No mention of the people who opened the floodgates of China crap imports and trade deficits?

That'd be Richard Nixon (although he probably didn't know it at the time). Or...perhaps he did. He was a pretty shady character.

Nixon opened the door for relations but, that was more so to open markets for US goods and to get them (China) out of the doldrums of Mao's policies. Remember, after Mao's death, there was a purge of the loyalists who were the enforcers of their closed-door existence. China's ability to manufacture on a large scale didn't start until the 80's, US & European companies recognized the cheap labor market and started to shift their production to China once they modernized, it wasn't until the 90's that they became a influential worldwide player, by the 2000's they were well on their way. That first generation of laborers saved their money and are the ones traveling around the world, while their kids are doing computer work instead of piecing clothing together or, metal work.

Blame for the off-shoring of manuf. and trade imbalance can be pointed at both parties: GOP for encouraging executives to seek the highest profits regardless of domestic impact; Dems for supporting organized labor who's bullying eventually pushed/forced companies to close or, move off-shore. The auto & steel industry is an easy target but the Northeast used to have a robust textile industry, that doesn't exist anymore; shipbuilding was an industry in every port, today, Philadelphia is the only yard area producing Jones Act ships, Seattle and parts of NE produce some fishing vessels, and the gulf coast produce basic oil/gas rigs. Long time ship building areas like SF, NYC, Boston, Portland, Baltimore and Charleston barely have any maritime connection outside of container terminals and private marinas.

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Originally posted by rusbro:
Rick Astley

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You, sir, are a nervy guy. Rick Roll us after the BOSS specifically told us enough was enough, and its already been too much.

I don't often give good advice, but I'll make an exception. Instantly contact the boss and beg forgiveness for your transgression. He might even allow you to remain among the living.